I saw a posting in a biodiesel forum www.biodiesel.infopop.cc about a waste oil heater at www.MurphysMachines.com

Has anyone built this thing?

Thanks,

other than being a DIY hobby item.

There has to be enough running around to gather used oil which leads to the question of what happened to the local recycling effort?

Another low-efficiency smoker run by someone without combustion instruments with no hope of a serviceperson seriously ever taking a look at it in an era of trying to prevent global warming requires a LOT of disregard.

Waste burners for garages, etc, have been made and sold for decades, and they are serviced properly.

A home-made with no clue can become a wonder full of the weekend hobby that kills. At least Homeland Security won't come to dismantle such a home-made bomb.

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Yes, you really have to find out the MAKE and MODEL to get good answers. There IS more than one machine made.

Either you have no idea what you are talking about or you work for one of the waste oil heating manufacturers.

Did you read the forum about this thing? It doesn't smoke at all.

In addition, the "proper" waste oil burners cost $5000 or more and then you have to pay hundreds more every year for that servicing you are talking about.

I have an ample supply of vegetable oil and I've been told that manufactured waste oil burners WILL NOT BURN VEGETABLE OIL.

In addition, I've seen the expensive waste oil heaters and they do smoke a little bit in between breaking down and plugging up and filter changes.. oh.. and inbetween those expensive service calls.

How does it feel to spend $200 for a service call to replace a $2 part you could have done yourself?
(what a rip off)

Global Warming - Not possible when burning waste veg oil.

So I guess I would like to know why someone with no clue would bother to respond to a question when they have no idea what they are talking about.

You are responding like a hurt salesman trying to sell an idea that is foolish for homeowners. NOBODY has the maintenance tools and skills necessary to make and use a home-made oil burner. Yes, the waste oil heaters do smoke due to particulates in the oil and variable viscosities. However, vegetable oil is in the same situation with variable supplies of oils.

This is no area for a homeowner to experiment with a field of service that requires techs to be licensed in many states; which is why service is expensive. There is no substitute for training and experience in dangerous fire and combustion equipment.

Now go off and convince those states that have licensing that they are absolutely WRONG to protect their consumers so somebody can save a few hundred dollars a year running all over getting waste.

I have 45 years of on-the-job experience in the oil combustion field. You aren't the first flamer:

http://www.heatpro.us/flametree/documents/E76907B772A1272406E890F42A8D5C635E7FF108.html

http://www.heatpro.us/service/argues.htm

http://www.heatpro.us/flametree/documents/55E4568E775EA74F6081C012F05F175ADC6A4B43.html

http://www.heatpro.us/flametree/documents/67CBCC100649C88E2847E672BAAF59ACDA6DFADA.html

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Yes, you really have to find out the MAKE and MODEL to get good answers. There IS more than one machine made.

I was slightly put off because i've built other waste oil heaters.

Most manufactures of waste oil heaters have done nothing but copy the good old fuel oil furnace gun.

How many of your waste oil burners will ignite half wet vegetable oil? None I bet.

I'm not the put off sales-person. But I have enough experience in building things to know that you're trying to invoke fear to keep your sales.

You can always spot a con game when people start quoting laws in the way you have.

Nice try but I think people can read between the lines.

In addition, I asked if anyone had built one. If I wanted some service guys completly biased opinion, I would have gone and visited a waste oil manufactures site.

I think I'm going to build this thing.. The fact that some manufactures service representative is so against it tells me its probably a good deal.

Thanks for the tip.

I'm not against you playing around with combustibles and explosives. I make no money doing this any longer and I sell nothing.

I only caution people that this is a specialized area of combustion and it has dangers - for the same reason most people won't fix their own burners and really can't.

This one guy who makes his own version of a burner is not in a new field. Oil burners have been around for near a century now. This burner is not the brandie-new secret that has been withheld from the world because it burns with 350% efficiency by the secret society. It's just makes $50 for the seller for info that can be found by a web search on Google.

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Yes, you really have to find out the MAKE and MODEL to get good answers. There IS more than one machine made.

Please.
Now your using the word "explosive".

Maybe your burners are explosive.. I built one years back based on a water heater.. It is not possible to make it explode. I tried.

I tried heating it up and filling it with oil vapor and then igniting it.

Wow.. Nothing happened! Hmm.. seems oil has a high enough flash point to make it NOT want to explode.

In fact, oil is NOT EXPLOSIVE. Please find me one referece to oil being explosive.

I think what you mean is that your style of commerical waste oil heater can create conditions compatable with creating an explosion with your heater.. For this reason, it should only be serviced by a certified person.
Sounds like a design flaw to me.

The only way to get the waste oil heater I built long ago to explode is to fill it with gasoline.

Change tactics. Fear mongering doesnt work that well anymore.

But that was funny.. EXPLOSIVE! Danger Will Robinson!!! Danger!

LOL

You have the citizen's right to walk upstream against highway traffic insisting that anyone else can do it. I am cautioning others that usually don't have the manual skill nor training to handle combustibles.

You will say it is perfectly safe for anyone to handle oil combustion because you can do it and you are perfect; the downside is that someone in the nation is always having a problem with a fire or explosion even after allowing only a professional to do so. Your viewpoint is that the states that require professionals to service oil burners are all wrong because it is safe for anyone to work on them. You say I am all wrong because nobody has ever had a problem with oil burners exploding.
I READ YOUR STATEMENT!
I REALLY SAW IT!
OTHERS READ IT!
BUT THE GOVERNMENT DISAGREES because insurance companies disagree with you.

SHOUT YOUR POINT FROM THE HILLS! You have the right. Nobody will call you when they have a problem. You can remain all-knowing.

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Yes, you really have to find out the MAKE and MODEL to get good answers. There IS more than one machine made.

having had a home made waste oil heater operating in my house for 11 winters (nearly 12), all i can say is that most of the warnings i have read here are at least highly overstated and at worst a deliberate attempt at scare tactics.

No smoke no smell, never had a complaint, and my nearest neighbour is 20 feet away downwind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lwSmYz_g6U

Make a video of you showing the wives and their kids how to adjust and maintain the heater while the DIY who builds it is out of the house.

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Yes, you really have to find out the MAKE and MODEL to get good answers. There IS more than one machine made.