clydesdale wrote: "I mentioned M & W as they have a good reputation, use kiln dried lumber as opposed to green, prefab trusses, etc. Generally seem to provide a higher class of pole building than most, certainly far better than their immediate Willamette Valley competitors anyhow."
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Your words sound a little presumptuos, here. The fact of the matter is that not all pole building installers construct the same type of building. Oh, on the outside they may all look the same, and to some people that's all that matters. I myself build my own trusses of 2x cores (either 2 cores or 3 cores), glued together with plywood gussets, and I would take that truss as a consumer any day over a staple plated "pre-manufactured" truss. Indeed, that's why I build them -- because people do want them.
For people who consider a pole building a major financial investment rather than just a garage or cover, I think we can both agree that the materials do matter. That is obviously why you tout kiln dried lumber. Personally, I hate using the stuff to build with, and frankly I think that pre-drilling the lumber and using 20d nails, rather than using a nail gun with 16d nails, is more critical than kiln dried versus green. Heck, some builders, Steel Structures America, use 30d nails! (I hope they pre-drill first!)
One thing I have learned through the years is to not get a hot head about my work over other builder, though. I simply state what I do compared to others, but I don't think it is ethical to be putting down others' work.
On to my comment about the engineering: I do feel that a good engineer, like Clifton Berkey, is an asset to the quality to a building. Last winter I put a building up for a guy that needed a 24' clear-span lean-to attached to a 28x52 four-sided building. Everybody else he talked to wanted to re-design or otherwise restrict his "needs" to their design. Until he called me. We did exactly what he wanted, and it was because Cliff designed it just as the guy wanted.
That's why I say that the engineer can be determine a lot to the structure. Not on common sizes, but on extreme designs or needs that most engineers will say "nyah, just call out manufactured trusses and forget it." You haven't really seen a pole building until you've seen some that Cliff has designed for me.
We built one together that stood 22' to the eave, was 225' long, 70' clear span trusses, and the posts were on 25' centers! With the right engineer, there are solutions, not restrictions. What engineer would even bother considering that job? |
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