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0409 - Waterproofing the Deck and Framing a Roof
November 1-7, 1993 | May 2-8, 1994
HI, I'M BOB VILA.

WELCOME HOME AGAIN
TO OUR RANCH REMODEL

ON THE SHORES
OF LAKE COCHITUATE.

TODAY THE CARPENTERS
ARE PRETTY BUSY.

RYLEY WILL TRIM OUT
THE CORNICE DETAIL

ON A SHED DORMER.

WE ALSO HAVE A SUBCONTRACTOR
COMING TO THE JOB

TO PUT RUBBER MEMBRANE
ON THE DECK

OFF THE MASTER BEDROOM.

AND LARRY,
THE FRAMING CONTRACTOR,

WILL ROOF THE FARMER'S PORCH.

SO STICK AROUND.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU
HOME AGAIN.

CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY
B.V.T.V.

ALL RIGHT.

THE INTERESTING PART
OF WORKING ON THE SHED DORMER

IS TRIMMING IT UP.

WE HAVE OUR FASCIA BOARD
IN PLACE.

HI, RYLEY.

WHAT ARE YOU WORKING
ON OVER HERE?

WE'RE FINISHING UP
THE RAKE BOARDS.

THESE ARE BOTH
CALLED RAKE
BOARDS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WE USED A PIECE
OF 1 BY 8,

DRESSED UP WITH
A 1 BY 3

RIPPED DOWN
TO TWO INCHES.

BUILD IT OUT
A LITTLE BIT.

THEN YOU HAVE
THE DRIP EDGE
ON TOP

AND THE REST
OF THE ROOF
SHINGLES.

WHAT'S YOUR
NEXT STEP?

WE'VE GOT
THIS RAKE ON.

WE WANT TO PUT
THE CORNER BOARDS ON.

WE'LL START
WITH THE CHEEK SIDE

SO THAT WHEN WE PUT
THE FACE ON

WE WON'T BE LOOKING
AT A SEAM.

YOU WANT TO AVOID
HAVING THE SEAM

OR THE OPEN EDGE
FACING TOWARD
THE WEATHER.

HOW DO YOU
DETERMINE THE ANGLE

YOU'RE GONNA
CUT IT AT?

WE'RE GONNA
HOLD IT VERTICALLY

WHERE IT'S GOING.

AND WE'LL USE A PIECE
OF SCRAP STOCK.

THE OLD
TRANSFER METHOD.

JUST TRANSFER
THE ANGLE OF THE ROOF

ONTO OUR PIECE,
AND THAT'S IT.

AND THEN JUST MAKE
THE CUT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO, YOU'VE GOT
THE SAME ANGLE

AT BOTH ENDS
OF THAT 1 BY 4.

CORRECT,

AND NOW WHAT WE'LL DO

IS HAVE A SPACER
THAT'LL HOLD THE BASE

OFF THE ROOF,
APPROXIMATELY 3/8
OF AN INCH.

WHY DON'T YOU
WANT TO BUTT IT

ALL THE WAY DOWN
TO THE ROOF?

WHEN WE'VE GOT
ICE AND SNOW

MELTING IN
THE WINTERTIME,

YOU WANT TO GIVE IT
A NICE FREEWAY
TO RUN DOWN.

I NOTICED,
AS YOU STUCK
IT IN AT THE TOP,

BEHIND
THAT RAKEBOARD,

IT DOESN'T HAVE
TO BE EXACT.

YOU DON'T HAVE
TO BUTT EXACTLY.

RIGHT. WE HAVE
A PIECE OF STRAPPING
UP HERE.

YOU'VE GOT A FOUR-INCH
FUDGE FACTOR THERE,

SO THAT CUT DOESN'T
HAVE TO BE TOO PRECISE.

WE WANT TO BE SURE
THAT WE'RE FLUSH

TO THE FACE
OF THE BUILDING.

THAT'S GOOD.

OK.

NOW WE'RE READY
TO CUT THE FACE.

HOW WILL YOU
FIGURE OUT THE ANGLE

FOR THE BOTTOM
OF THE FACE?

WE'RE GONNA
HOLD IT UP

IN ITS VERTICAL
POSITION...

AND TAKE A PIECE
OF SCRAP

AND TRANSFER THE ANGLE
OF THE ROOF

ONTO THIS PIECE.

PUT A PENCIL MARK
ON THERE.

AND MAKE THE CUT.

SO, THAT'S CUT
TO LENGTH.

IT ALSO WANTS
TO BE KEPT UP

THE SAME CLEARANCE
OFF THE SHINGLES.

BY PUTTING IT ON
THE FACE LAST,

YOU CAN SEE WHY
YOU DO IT THAT WAY.

WE GET THE JOINT
FROM THE SIDE.

THAT JOINT
ON THE SIDE.

NOW, THERE'S
A SECTION

THAT WILL REQUIRE
A TRIANGULAR
PIECE OF TRIM.

WHAT WOULD
YOU CALL THAT?

THERE'S A FEW
DIFFERENT NAMES.

SOME PEOPLE CALL IT
THE MITTEN,

SOME CALL IT THE JET,

SOME CALL IT
THE EAR BOARD.

IT'S A PIECE
THAT HIDES THESE
BUTT ENDS.

LET'S NAIL
THIS ONE UP,

THEN WE'LL FIGURE
OUT HOW TO CUT IT.

OK. NOW TO GET
THE RIGHT SIZED

TRIANGULAR PIECE
OF WOOD OUT OF

OUT OF THIS PIECE
OF 1 BY 12,

YOU'VE GOT TO TRANSFER
THE VERTICAL

SO THAT IT'S FLUSH
WITH YOUR CORNERBOARD

AND THE HORIZONTAL
LINE,

SO THAT IT'S EVEN
WITH THE LOWEST PART

OF YOUR FASCIA
BOARD THERE.

AND YOU'VE GOTTA
GET THAT UNDER HERE.

SO I'LL JUST
MEASURE DOWN

TO A POINT
THAT'S 6 AND 7/8.

THEN YOU CAN STICK
THIS ON HERE
ARBITRARILY

AS LONG AS IT COVERS
THE LOW POINT.

AND TRANSFER
THAT MEASUREMENT.

MAKE SURE
THAT BUBBLE'S
WHERE YOU WANT IT.

OK. THAT'S OUR
PLUMB CUT.

THAT'S YOUR
PLUMB CUT.

AND THAT'S OUR
FASCIA CUT.

GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S THE ONE.

GET A COUPLE MORE
NAILS IN THERE

WHILE WE BREAK
FOR SOME MESSAGES.

WHEN WE RETURN,
WE'LL WATERPROOF
A DECK.

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HI, I'M BOB VILA.

NEXT TIME ON HOME AGAIN

THE CARPENTERS
ARE STILL BUSY.

RYLEY WILL SHOW US HOW
TO TRIM A CORNICE DETAIL

ON A SHED DORMER.

A SUBCONTRACTOR WILL PUT DOWN
A RUBBER MEMBRANE

ROOFING MATERIAL OVER
THE DECK OUTSIDE

THE MASTER BEDROOM.

LARRY THE FRAMING CONTRACTOR

WILL FRAME THE ROOF
ON THE FARMERS'S PORCH.

THAT'S NEXT TIME
ON HOME AGAIN.

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m2I'M BOB VILA.

NEXT TIME ON HOME AGAIN

WE'LL WATERPROOF THE DECK
AND FRAME THE PORCH ROOF.

DON'T MISS IT.



OK! LET'S MEET
WITH STEVE HURLEY

AND HIS SON, STEVE.

HI, FELLAS.

LET'S TALK ABOUT
RUBBER ROOFING.

HAVE YOU ALREADY
GOT IT ALL DOWN?

NO, WE'VE GOT
SOME OF IT DOWN.

WE'RE JUST TRIMMING
AROUND THE POST

AND WE'RE READY
TO GLUE THIS UP.

SO THIS HALF
IS NOT GLUED UP YET,

AND THIS BACK HALF IS.

YES.

OH, I SEE.

BOY, I'LL SAY.

ONCE THIS TOUCHES
THE GLUE, IT'S HAD IT.

YOU CAN'T MOVE IT
AROUND ANYMORE.

WHAT'S THE NATURE
OF THE RUBBER ITSELF?

ANYTHING SPECIAL
ABOUT IT?

NO.

IT FEELS JUST LIKE
AN INNER TUBE.

IT IS, I GUESS,
MADE OUT OF...

RUBBER!

WHAT SIZE ROLLS
DO YOU GET IT IN?

USUALLY 1O BY 5O,
OR 1O BY 1OO.

THIS PARTICULAR ONE
IS 12 FOOT WIDE

BECAUSE THE ROOF
IS 11

AND WE'RE GONNA GO
UP THE WALL

SO IT'S ALL
ONE PIECE.

YOUR WORK IS
MOSTLY LARGER SCALE.

THIS IS A LITTLE
JOB FOR YOU.

BUT THIS IS NICE.

NICE BECAUSE IT'S ALL
BRAND NEW WORK.

WHAT WOULD BE
THE RETAIL COST

OF DOING THIS
12 BY 12 APPROXIMATELY?

WHAT WOULD IT COST
TO DO THIS ROOF?

THIS LITTLE ONE'S
AROUND $4OO--425.

THAT'S PROBABLY
BASED ON NEW WORK.

RIGHT. THE CARPENTERS
DID EVERYTHING.

THEY GET THE PLYWOOD.

WE'RE JUST GLUING
THE RUBBER TO
THE PLYWOOD

AND FLASHING UP
THE POSTS IN
THE CORNERS.

YOU DON'T HAVE
TO INSULATE

OR PUT ANY EXTRA
PRODUCTS IN.

WHAT ABOUT SITUATIONS
LIKE THIS,

WHERE YOU HAVE
A CRACK IN BETWEEN
THE PLYWOOD?

THIS HEAVY RUBBER
GOES RIGHT OVER IT.

YOU WON'T EVEN
SEE IT AFTERWARDS.

STEVE, WHAT KIND
OF ADHESIVE

DO YOU HAVE
IN THE BUCKET HERE?

THIS IS JUST
A BONDING ADHESIVE

THAT GOES FROM
THE PLYWOOD TO
THE RUBBER.

SMELLS GREAT!

WE'LL WATCH YOU
ROLL IT OUT.

NOW, THE MAIN THING
TO KEEP IN MIND

WHEN YOU'RE SPREADING
THIS GLUE OUT?

YOU WANT TO DO
A NICE, EVEN LAYER

SO THERE'S NO PUDDLES.

IF YOU HAVE
A LOT OF PUDDLES

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE
LITTLE BUBBLES
IN THE RUBBER.

IT LOOKS LIKE
A VERY THIN LAYER.

THERE'S NOT MUCH
OF IT GOING ON.

YOU DON'T NEED
TOO MUCH.

WHEN I GET AROUND
THIS STUFF

I WANT TO KIND OF
GLOP IT ALL OVER
THE PLACE.

THAT'S MORE WITH
YOUR HOT TAR ROOFING.

SO THE WAY THAT YOU'RE
GOING AT THIS

REMINDS ME OF WORKING
WITH PLASTIC LAMINATE.

YOU HAVE TO PUT
THE ADHESIVE ON
BOTH SURFACES.

THEN YOU HAVE
TO WAIT

UNTIL IT'S
ALMOST DRY.

WHICH ON A NICE DAY
LIKE TODAY

IS MAYBE 1O MINUTES?

YES, NO MORE.

OK?

SO, YOU JUST
SLIDE IT OUT
LIKE THAT.

YEP.

AND YOU PREVENT
AIR BUBBLES FROM
GETTING UNDER IT.

ANY AIR BUBBLES
THAT WOULD,

YOU CAN USUALLY
RUB RIGHT OUT.

STEVE, WHY DON'T
YOU GLUE THIS SIDE

RIGHT UP?

OK, SO YOU'VE
GOT ENOUGH OF
THE SAME SHEET

THAT YOU COULD
BRING IT UP
THE SIDE WALL?

RIGHT. THE SAME PIECE
WILL GO RIGHT UP THE WALL

SO THERE'S NO
LAPSE AT ALL.

YOU DON'T HAVE
TO WORRY ABOUT

ICE BUILDING UP.

OK. I WAS
JUST NOTICING

THAT YOU'VE GOT
OTHER PIECES

OF A DIFFERENT
MATERIAL.

THIS IS YOUR
FLASHING RUBBER.

IT MOLDS RIGHT
AROUND THE POST FOR US.

SO, WE'RE GONNA
WASH THIS RIGHT NOW.

WHEN YOU SAY
WASH IT...

WELL, THIS IS
A SPLICE CLEANER.

IT TAKES THE POWDER
OFF THE SHEET.

MM-HMM.

THIS IS QUITE...

IT'S JUST A LIQUID.

RIGHT.

IT PRIMES THE RUBBER

SO THAT THE SPLICING
ADHESIVE

WILL BOND TO IT
MUCH BETTER.

YEAH, I KEEP
BEING REMINDED
OF FIXING FLATS.

IT PROBABLY WOULD.

SO WE'RE GONNA
LET THAT DRY.

DO YOU HAVE TO PUT
THE SAME MATERIAL
ON THE WOOD?

NO, WE'LL USE
THE SPLICE ADHESIVE

ON THE WOOD.

SO I'LL LET THAT DRY

AND GET THE OTHER POST.

THEN I'LL COME BACK.

WE'RE PUTTING
THE SPLICE GLUE DOWN.

THIS LOOKS LIKE
A ROOFING CEMENT
PRODUCT, LIKE TAR.

NO, IT'S FOR
THE RUBBER.

IT'S SPLICE.

IT'S FROM
RUBBER TO RUBBER,

IT'S FOR FLASHING.

SO IT'S A CHEMICAL
PRODUCT.

DO YOU HAVE TO
PUT IT ON THE POST

AND--
YOU DO, I GUESS.

YES, AND WE GOTTA
LET IT SET UP

THE SAME AS WE DO
ON THE BONDING ADHESIVE.

FIVE OR TEN
MINUTES.

THEN WE'LL WRAP IT
AROUND THAT POST

AND THAT'LL BE
THE END OF IT.

MAYBE WE'RE READY
TO PUT THE OTHER
SECTION

UP THE SIDE.

WE CAN DO THIS
RIGHT NOW.

BRING IT IN TIGHT.

OK?

I GOTTA WRINKLE HERE.

OK. SHE SHOULD GO
RIGHT UP.

ONCE IT GOES UP

YOU DON'T NEED
TO NAIL IT
ANYWHERE

OR STAPLE IT,
RIGHT?

THEY WILL NAIL THROUGH
THE TOP PART OF THIS WIDTH

WITH THE SIDING,

SO IN CASE IT WILL EVER
CREEP DOWN

OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
BUT THAT'S IT.

A LITTLE SHOT
OF GLUE UP TOP,

BUT THAT'S ALL.

THERE WE GO.

THAT WAY, THE WATER
CAN BACK UP...

AND WE WON'T HAVE
TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

THEY SEEM QUITE CONCERNED
WITH THE WATER.

LET'S SEE IF THIS
IS SET UP YET.

WELL, THE GLUE'S READY.

SO, THIS IS ALSO
A RUBBERIZED PRODUCT,

BUT IT COMES WITH
AN ADHESIVE ALREADY
APPLIED TO IT.

AND THIS,
ONCE IT TOUCHES,

THAT'S THE END OF IT.

IT HAS NO GRACE.

NO GRACE.

JUST TAKE IT OFF,
THROW IT AWAY,

AND START
ALL OVER AGAIN.

BUT I'M SURE
YOU'LL GET A GOOD,
TIGHT JOINT THERE.

THAT'S ONE OF
THE MOST PROBLEMATIC
PLACES,

BECAUSE WE HAVE
A 4 BY 4 POST

THAT'S BEEN LET
THROUGH THE DECK
SHEATHING,

AND BOLTED ONTO
THE RAFTERS BELOW IT.

SO IT'S GOOD
AND SOLID.

BUT IT'S ALWAYS
GONNA HAVE
A BIT OF MOTION.

WHEN YOU HAVE
MOTION AND A ROOFING
MATERIAL,

YOU'RE GONNA
END UP WITH A LEAK.

THAT LOOKS
GOOD, STEVE.

IT SEEMS TO WORK
QUITE WELL.

NICE JOB.

OK. ONCE THIS
IS ALL COMPLETE,

WE'LL BE PUTTING
DOWN A WOODEN DECK,

SO THAT THE RESIDENTS
CAN ENJOY

THE VIEW OF THE LAKE.

THIS TIME OF YEAR,
WHEN THE KIDS ARE
OUT OF SCHOOL,

YOU CAN HEAR THEM
PLAYING ON THE BEACH.

WE'LL BE BACK.



OK. LAST WEEK
WE STARTED BUILDING

THIS FARMER'S PORCH
ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE,

WHICH SERVES AS AN ENTRY
TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE

AND A RECREATIONAL
OUTDOOR ROOM.

WE SHOWED YOU HOW TO BUILD
THE DECK FRAMING,

WHICH IS CREATED FROM
PRESSURE-TREATED LUMBER,

AND IT ALL SITS ON
THESE CONCRETE PIERS, HERE.

WE HAVE A LAMINATED BEAM,

TWO PIECES OF
PRESSURE-TREATED LUMBER

WITH PLYWOOD IN THE MIDDLE,

AND THAT SPANS
THE WHOLE PORCH.

AT THIS POINT, THE NEW WORK
THAT'S BEEN DONE

IS THAT WE HAVE A POST
FASTENED DOWN TO THE BEAM,

4 BY 4 DOUGLAS FIR,

AND THE TOP OF THE POST
IS ALSO FASTENED

TO THIS NEWLY CRAFTED
BEAM UP HERE,

WHICH IS IDENTICAL.

IT'S ALSO GOT A PIECE
OF PLYWOOD

IN THE MIDDLE TO GIVE IT
ADDITIONAL STRENGTH.

IT GOES THE WHOLE SPAN
OF THE PORCH.

LARRY, HOW BIG
IS THIS PORCH?

IT'S 32 FEET LONG,
APPROXIMATELY,

AND IT'S ALMOST
7 FEET OUT
FROM THE HOUSE.

IT'S GOING
TO BE SPECTACULAR.

NOW, YOU GUYS,

YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE
OF GETTING STARTED

WITH THE JOIST?

THE CEILING JOIST.

AND THEY CAN BE
2 BY 6?

THEY CAN BY 2 BY 6.

THEY GO IN
LIKE THIS...

SO, THEY GET FASTENED

RIGHT ONTO
THE LEDGER BOARD

THAT'S ALREADY
BEEN PUT ON THE HOUSE.

AND THEY GET SPACED
16 INCHES ON CENTER?

EXACTLY, BOB.

WHAT KIND OF ROOF
WILL YOU PUT UP

OVER THE TOP?

THE 2 BY 6
ROOF RAFTERS

WILL GO UP UNDERNEATH
THE WINDOWS

ABOUT 1O INCHES
FROM THE BOTTOM
OF THE WINDOW,

AND UNDER THE CEILING
WE'LL PUT

A V-GROOVE
PINE CEILING, BOB.

IT'LL BE PAINTED
NICE AND OLD-FASHIONED.

LARRY,
WHAT SIZE LUMBER

ARE YOU USING
FOR THE RAFTERS?

2 BY 6.

IT'S A REAL
SHORT SPAN, RIGHT?

IT'S ONLY OVER
6 1/2 FEET.

AND WHAT
ABOUT THE PITCH

THAT THE ROOF
IS GOING TO HAVE?

THE SHED ROOF
OVER THE PORCH

IS A 4 1/2 INCH
PER 12 INCH RUN.

A 4 1/2...

FOR EVERY 12 INCHES

YOU GO HORIZONTALLY
BACK TO THE HOUSE.

YOU RISE 4 1/2 INCHES.

THIS SLOPE
OF THIS SHED ROOF

WILL DIE INTO
THIS EXISTING ROOF,

WHICH IS A 6 INCH
PER 12 INCH RUN.

SO THAT MAKES IT
PRETTY COMPLICATED.

TWO DIFFERENT
PITCHES

THAT NEED TO BE
MARRIED IN A VALLEY.

LET'S TAKE A CLOSER
LOOK AT THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE'S STILL ABOUT
6 OR 8 MORE

OF THESE RAFTERS
TO PUT IN

BETWEEN HERE, LARRY,

BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT
THIS SITUATION.

YOU'VE GOT UNUSUAL CUTS
ON THE 2 BY 6.

WELL, THIS ANGLE
CUT ON THE BOTTOM

REPRESENTS
THE SLOPE OF THIS

EXISTING HOUSE ROOF.

AS WE WANT
TO PUT IT IN,

THERE'S ALSO PART
OF THE COMPOUND CUT

THAT'S ON THE LEVEL,

WHICH IS PART
OF THE SAME CUT.

IT BLENDS ONE SLOPE
INTO ANOTHER SLOPE,

AND THE TOP CUT
REMAINS THE SAME

AS THE NEW RAFTERS.

SO THAT'S
THE FIRST RAFTER.

WE'RE READY
TO PUT THIS IN NOW.

THE FIRST RAFTER
TOWARD CREATING
THIS VALLEY.

SO, AS WE CONTINUE
UP THE VALLEY

WITH THE 16 INCH
ON CENTER RAFTERS,

WE'LL EVENTUALLY
MEET THE TOP

WHERE THE TWO
ROOF SLOPES
WILL MEET.

THEY ALL
GET SHORTER
AS YOU GO UP.

THEN YOU PUT SOME
PLYWOOD ON THIS,

AND WE'RE READY TO GO.

NICE JOB.

WE'LL RETURN
AFTER THESE MESSAGES.



THAT'S GONNA WRAP
THINGS UP FOR THIS WEEK.

COME HOME AGAIN NEXT TIME

WHEN WE'LL DO SOME
CARPENTRY AGAIN.

WE'RE TAKING A SINGLE
WINDOW OUT,

REFRAMING THE SIDE WALL

TO INSTALL A DOUBLE WINDOW
OFF THAT PORCH

WE WERE WORKING ON TODAY.

AND WE'LL TAKE A TRIP
TO MIAMI BEACH

TO VISIT THE ART
DECO DISTRICT.

AND THE PLUMBERS WILL SHOW US
HOW TO SWEAT A JOINT

WITH SOME COPPER PIPE.I'M BOB VILA.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU
HOME AGAIN.

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