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tmtorrijos

03:16PM | 01/15/10
Member Since: 02/18/07
5 lifetime posts
We're happy to "fix the damage", but no one can tell us what is damaged. As I've mentioned before, the professionals who have come out can't seem to find anything wrong, so we're stumped. The first roofer who came out suggested that we put exhaust fans in our bathrooms, which we've done with no success. We do have one other professional in mind who hasn't seen it in person (although he has heard about it), and we're going to call him next week.

I appreciate all your help oddball. I'll be sure to keep everyone posted. I do feel a little better just knowing that other people have the same problem.

OddBall

05:34PM | 01/15/10
Member Since: 11/10/06
138 lifetime posts
tmtorrijos,

Your problem only happens in the winter durring melting, Right ?

It`s almost always Ice damming getting behind the gutter or under the roofing. Sometime dormer flashing.

To give you better advice, I need a photo of the wall from a few feet back so I can see the entire wall plus gutter/roof, and a photo from the top of the gutter showing inside down the long way so I can see the top of the gutter and roofline. The signs will tell me the rest.

dld92760

10:32AM | 01/17/10
Member Since: 01/11/10
3 lifetime posts
tmtorrijos,

I think you have made a good argument that things on the outside are not revealing much. So my suggestion would be to start looking inside. Clearly there must be moisture coming from somewhere. One of the other people on this post indicated that their problem was a leaky dryer vent. Let me tell you what I found and you may want to do some inside investigation if you haven't yet. My Bleeding only occurs in the winter. Here is why. I went up into my attic to do some investigation. I went to the wall where my bleeing is occuring. I pulled the insullation away from the sheating and found the brownish/redish stain on my top plate. After talking with some construnction friends I confirmed what I thought: Warm air from the living quarters is coming through the ceiling and condensing on the cold sheathing. It is penetrating the buffalo board/fiber board and running down the outside finding its way through a seem in the Tyveck and out onto the siding. My construction friends were somewhat suprised that this process woudld create the volume of bleeding that I am seeing. Well that isn't the end of the story. I worked my way to anther point along the wall and found perhaps the major source of my problem. I pull some insulation back and revealed a sewer vent line where somehow a 90 degree elbow had broken and basically my sewer vent was venting right into the insulation, right next to the sheathing (vent comes up through the outside wall). Don't ask me why they did it that way when they built the house but there you go. So basically this warm sewer vent was providing all kinds of moisture to my east wall. Lots of condensation, lots of bleeding. So I am going to address the sewer line and see what happens. Maybe you want to do some exploratory surgery in your attic and see if anything strange turns up.

needadvice1

09:39AM | 02/07/10
Member Since: 02/06/10
6 lifetime posts
I have the same issue with my siding. This started early this week. Temps outside have been in the 40's with no recent snow storms. I had a plumber come over today and he said this is not a plumbing problem. He suggested it may be a roof problem. Keep me posted on any answers to this problem. My brown leak looks similar to the photo that was posted. The liquid is initially watery but hardens and darkens with time.

OddBall

04:37AM | 02/08/10
Member Since: 11/10/06
138 lifetime posts
Your siding is more than likely leaking,....There are many many ways your siding will leak. The browish stain left behind is from the tanic acid on wood your leak travels on before exiting in the least resistant spot.(most of the time) Paint under the butts can make it travel and show up in other spots, non level vinyl will let it travel as well.

Without details or photos it is hardest for anyone on the Net. to help you, The only fact you can get is that ...yes...your siding is leaking !! But you already know that,...so without being there to watertest or photos to examine signs, that`s pretty much all you`re gonna get. A small photo of the stain on two siding butts like provided earlier, is totally useless !!

Example: Help, my tire is flat and every time I put air in it, it goes back down, What`s the problem,...any advise will be helpful,..thank you !!........

needadvice1

06:04AM | 02/08/10
Member Since: 02/06/10
6 lifetime posts
The bleeding is mostly coming from below that window in the photo but there is an area that is also bleeding just above this window. The plumber said he thought it maybe a roofing problem. The only issue with that is we have had no snow here in a month. I guess it could be frozen gutters but not sure. I am having a roofer come over to take a look. If it is not the roof and not plumbing does anyone have an idea where else this liquid could be coming from?
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needadvice1

06:07AM | 02/08/10
Member Since: 02/06/10
6 lifetime posts
2nd photo
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OddBall

10:39AM | 02/08/10
Member Since: 11/10/06
138 lifetime posts
Ok, It is hitting the top of that window and running down both sides. Does it show up inside at the top of the window ?

There are a few things that can cause leaks without rain or snow.

Check these,then get back to me,

1, Vent pipes that don`t have a downward slope (pitch) from the elbow that goes up to the roof back. Condensation will build up and go through joints.

2, Bathroom vents that don`t vent outside via flex hoses or hard lines.

3, If your heater and A/C is in the attick, there should be a drip pan with a pipe to drain out the house under it. This drain pipe should be pitched too. After it goes through the opening, it should stick out into the gutter or far enough so it don`t back track into the opening.

4, If you have attick insulation on the inside of the roof, improper ventilation will condense and run down the foil that is on the other side of the paper backing and down the wall on both sides.

5, Are the roofing nails that come through the wood rusty ?

Let me know what the roofer says, and see if he will do a water test with a garden hose. Gutter first, then the roofing from the bottom up.

OddBall

10:41AM | 02/08/10
Member Since: 11/10/06
138 lifetime posts
Oh ya,...Do you use a humidifier ?
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