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whalerron

07:16PM | 12/29/04
Member Since: 12/29/04
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Bvbasement
My basement has an outdoor entrance. There is a set of steps that go from that outside entrance up about 6 feet to ground level. At the base of the steps there is a landing with a drain in it and the drain no longer works.

How are these basement steps drains typically setup? What is the procedure for replacing the drain when it cannot be cleaned and it no longer drains? I have thought about building a set of Murphy doors but the staircase is entirely outdoors and it is about 15 feet long.

cellarwater

01:42PM | 12/30/04
Member Since: 12/09/03
178 lifetime posts
These drains usually go to a drywell. What is the water issue? Does it come into the bulkhead when it rains, or come out of the drain during the spring thaw? let me know. C.

whalerron

06:24PM | 12/31/04
Member Since: 12/29/04
4 lifetime posts
The 15 foot long stairwell is completely exposed to the rain. When it rains, the water runs down the steps to the landing. If it is raining hard enough, the drain can't handle the flow and the water level starts building on top of the landing. When it reaches the top of the 3" row block, which is under the door, the water starts leaking under the door and into the basement.

I have thought about breaking out the landing with a maul. Then I would dig down 3 feet and back fill with washed stone. Is this the proper way to correct this drain problem?

Thanks,

Ron

theeagle

06:24PM | 12/31/04
Member Since: 11/27/04
174 lifetime posts
possibly your drain goes into the perimiter drain tile of the house and years of dirt getting into the drain has plugged it. if not then break up the concrete and dig a dry well about 3 feet deep by roughly 2 feet wide and fill with 'three quarter minus' crushed rock. a note ..if you have a high ground water level this way may not drain the best if lots of rain gets into this stairwell. there are also yard drain barrels that have no bottom(also a 5 gallon bucket upside down with a 4 inch pvc drain pipe into it and then drain cover) and can also be placed in the hole and surrounded by crushed rock and reconcrete and put on the drain cover. this will allow more expansion room for the water to go into before the ground absorbs the water.


theeagle

06:25PM | 12/31/04
Member Since: 11/27/04
174 lifetime posts
whoa.. de ja vue.


cellarwater

06:48PM | 12/31/04
Member Since: 12/09/03
178 lifetime posts
One thing I might want to suggest; is there any way of sealing the bulkhead better?With plastic sheeting or roofing it? This might help cut down some of the water. C.

whalerron

05:23PM | 01/01/05
Member Since: 12/29/04
4 lifetime posts
The water issue is completely due to rain. If it doesn't rain, I don't have a problem. Even a foot of snow is ok because it melts slowly and the drain will take almost an infinite amount of water at a slow rate.

A roof is possible but because of where the stairway exits from the house, it would look ugly. Of course, I am covering the stairwell with plywood now when it rains and nothing is uglier than that.


cellarwater

11:42AM | 01/02/05
Member Since: 12/09/03
178 lifetime posts
Looks like the drainage inprovements are the answer. C.

whalerron

06:56PM | 01/05/05
Member Since: 12/29/04
4 lifetime posts
It seems to me that if I fix this by digging a new drywell, it will eventually become a problem again. Each time it rains, a small bit of dirt will be washed down the drain. Over time, the drywell will fill with dirt and be rendered useless again. But, I guess there is no other way to fix this unless I put a roof over the stairs.

cellarwater

03:34AM | 01/06/05
Member Since: 12/09/03
178 lifetime posts
Build a drywell with a cover that can be removed for cleaning. C.
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