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LicensedWaterproofer

10:57AM | 03/23/05
Member Since: 03/05/04
301 lifetime posts
lololololololololololololol.....The Homeowner states "They`d call everyday (Everdry) and they would break things or need ADVISE!!!" hahahahaaaaaa...

http://www.wane.com/Global/story.asp?S=3027141

KingVolcano

03:35PM | 03/26/05
Member Since: 03/03/05
273 lifetime posts
If you have never tried the product you are slamming, then you are just a bag of hot air. Sounds like you are an old **** who is set in his ways and is too pig headed to think there might be another good product out there?

I know for a fact the Delts-MS product works, and works well. Delta-MS has continued to prevent leakes after a foundation had developed cracks, post installation.

I'm tired of your negative blathering.

squirreljr

09:13AM | 03/28/05
Member Since: 07/16/03
6 lifetime posts
I don't use or have even seen Delta-ms, but have looked at the website. Sounds and looks to me like the same general method you use. Since I have read your many post before that say just to dig down to the footer and apply tar and plastic then fill with gravel. If you put a footer drain in and gravel along side the "dimpled" sheet are you not doing the same as your way?? I mean the gravel will never allow the water to get close to the wall anyway and gravity will just pull down to the drain and to a sump or out to daylight. If the "dimpled" sheet is applied properly and does not tear or puncture during install, it sounds to me to be a better idea then tar and 6mil plastic since the Delta version is 25mil. thick. I don't know you and you don't know me so no "lolololo" comments, I just want you to reply with a good explanation and reason why your way is better then this example and maybe you will convince me.

LicensedWaterproofer

12:42PM | 03/28/05
Member Since: 03/05/04
301 lifetime posts
...first, i come on here to HELP people/homeowners...ok, i dont want-ask for a darn thing from anyone. I have seen Many who have gotten screwed the last 25+ years.

Delta...SAYS--implies- that it will cushion the wall and/or prevent Cracks...right? Well, from someone who has actually done-guaranteed jobs over this length of time, i am saying that by buying this product will NOT prevent cracks! Thats right, will not. There is NO way a dimpled sheeting is going to stop-prevent cracks in a basement wall from the Force-weight of the pressure of clay-dirt-tree roots etc..on the outside of homes. The Only way to help lessen the pressure on the outside of a basement wall is to hand dig it out,seal the wall like i have explained redundant and Backfill w/Pea sotne-gravel...Period.

No one ever seems to mention the "Importance" of hauling all the crap-dirt-clay-roots etc away which is what actually Causes 90% of Bsmt walls to shift-bow-buckle! Ya backfill w/peastone to lessen the pressure against the outside of the wall and it provides immediate drainage from grade to footing.

I 'Think' i know after 2 1/2 decades. The purpose or use of ANY sheeting(Delta or ANY) against the wall is to protect what was just applied to the wall when...backfilled...thats it. Thats its only purpose. So many people believe what they read...all the Claims made from advertisements...thats part of this countrys problem,too gullible! Have you--anyone actaully used this product over 20 or so years? If you want it and like it, then Pay for it. I`m simply saying you DONT need it...if a homeowner asks me to use it i wont. Why would I...look..all i know is from what ive done and what has worked for decades...why change? Why change/play with what i Know works?


squirreljr

01:46PM | 03/28/05
Member Since: 07/16/03
6 lifetime posts
That's fine. I'm not here to sell you or change your mind, I don't want to. I don't do it for a living like you and am not a civil engineer either. I hear from just as many people with problems about tar, or even a rubberized tar works great, but what are the long term affects? I read from forums about how it will just dry up and start to crack after 5-10-20 years and then it won't fill in and stretch with the cracks. What is your experience with long term "softness"? I just think that no matter what you put against the wall, as long as it withstands the water, if you backfill with a 2 foot wide path along the foundation and take it within 18 inches of the top, like you have said and I agree with your method. Can water traveling horizontally that hits gravel exert so much force to actually continue toward the wall and not almost straight down to a perimeter drain? If there is a tar/rubberized based product that will stay elastic for 20+ years then I'll use it in a heartbeat!

LicensedWaterproofer

02:10PM | 03/28/05
Member Since: 03/05/04
301 lifetime posts
i cant speak for the people who say tar 'dries up' and/or 'dry up `n crack'..i mean maybe whoever applied it to wall didnt apply it THICK enough/or use a Thick Tar, there are different grade/thicknesses of tar. Like damproofing...it is a tar which is used but damproofing by builders/laborers is put/applied on VERY thin, too thin, like a coat of paint. Of course that isnt going to last very long,that lil thin-application isnt gonna do squat. Especially when the builders backfill with TONS of dirt/clay/broken blocks-bricks-cans-wood etc. There is NO...Keyword here...DRAINAGE along the wall. If there was full & immediate drainage then even this cheap-thin tar(sprayed/rolled on) would last longer. What 'pulls down the tar' is the ground settling after backfilling with all that crap. It screws up-thins out-DEGRADES the tar before the tar actually has a chance to...set-harden. Why bother ya know!

Dont get me wrong, if i ever had new house built i would absolutely use Thick tar AND backfill w/ALL pea stone.

Water traveling 'horizontally' from area NEXT-to peastone backfill will....once it hits EDGE of P stone will Drain straight down! Not going to add-put pressure agst wall,it cant,its not going to get a chance.

LicensedWaterproofer

02:25PM | 03/28/05
Member Since: 03/05/04
301 lifetime posts
http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?S=1797522

Now....i am Not saying these guys/company does lousy work BUT what i wonder alot about is this....they(Suredry basements) state "We have found over time that urethane shrinks and the crack leaks again"....RIGHT? And then also state"urethane & epoxy injections are UNreliable"....They go on to say they have all of a sudden"Come up with a New Breakthrough Method".

Again...they actaully say 1 minute that "Injections will give a Complete Seal throughout the Entire crack"...and then they say "We have found over time the crack leaks again"...well which is it??

I didnt put these words out there, THEY did, talk about contradicting yourself,OUCH!

LicensedWaterproofer

12:26PM | 03/29/05
Member Since: 03/05/04
301 lifetime posts
this is pic of G Haege...who may be the nicest guy in the world `n might be pretty smart fella overall BUT imo...give up the recommendations on waterproofing-foundations Mr Haege please!

http://www.detroitpublictv.org/pressroom/glenhaege/articles2001.jpg

LicensedWaterproofer

03:59AM | 08/21/05
Member Since: 03/05/04
301 lifetime posts
More people getting screwed....heavy equipment etc Can & Will cause bsmt walls to crack,bow,buckle,leak, and so too can clay--

http://www.riverwatchonline.org/news/winnipeg_press/07_09_05.html

http://www.boston.com/news/traffic/bigdig/articles/2005/03/27/big_dig_now_faces_property_complaints/

http://clevescene.com/Issues/2005-07-27/news/news.html
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