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GOODSHEP

06:03PM | 03/17/00
Member Since: 03/16/00
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Bvwindows
WE ARE LOOKING AT REPLACING 20 WINDOWS IN OUR HOUSE. WE HAVE HAD THREE COMPANIES COME AND SHOW US THEIR WINDOWS. ONE COMPANY SAID THEY WOULD GIVE US A BIG PRICE BREAK FOR ADVERTISING WITH OUR HOUSE. IS THIS LEGITIMATE? ALSO I HAVE BEEN GETTING SOME INFO ON THE WEB ABOUT VINYL WINDOWS. IS IT TRUE THAT THEY WARP, CRACK AND DISCOLOR? THEY ARE WAY CHEAPER THAN THE MARVIN WINDOWS WE LOOKED AT. BUT WILL THEY LAST? HOW LONG?
IT SEEMS THAT WE HEAR DIFFERENT THINGS FROM DIFFERENT COMPANIES. ALSO, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT A GE COMPOZIT WINDOW? THANKS!

hermonator4

07:27AM | 12/29/06
Member Since: 12/28/06
2 lifetime posts
What I know is based on presentations seen and conversations I have had with construction friends...

Every company will "spin" what they offer in the best way possible! I recommend finding a neutral source of info. Ask questions like "how much argon is between the panes" and how much heat/cold reduction do the windows provide over just a single window. Often, the difference in performance is very minimal and does not justify the price. Guarantees often also are pro-rated.

I would recommend looking into GE Compozit if spending a bit more money is not an issue. We had a presentation by Thomas Construction, who apparently owns the factory that makes and distributes Compozit windows. Based on the presentation we saw, they are a very good product and won't warp like viny windows apparently might. The triple-pane windows. They reduced the heat/cold moving thru the glass by a huge margin -vs- the regular double-pane windows that don't make much difference over single pane. They also came with a transferrable lifetime 100% guarantee.

I am very suspicious of cheap vinyl windows and if you are planning to stay in your home, not optimize for sale profit, i'd avoid the cheap vinyls. You might also consider wood with vinyl exterior. Your purpose in replacing the windows should somewhat guide your decision.

We were offered an $800 discount to post a sign in our yard for 30 days, but we do have a great location for such a thing. They will give you a discount if you have a good location and will help them advertise.

In the end, we did not buy any windows due to $$, but we were really impressed by Compozit windows for energy savings, durability, guarantee and overall look...but you must pay for that extra quality!

I am far from an expert, but wanted to pass on what I have discovered so far. Good luck!

fargood

02:51PM | 01/09/07
Member Since: 01/08/07
1 lifetime posts
Well I'm not a big window person either and had Wallside do my first house and they did a really good job and never had a problem. Well this next house I had H*****s do these windows due to a friend having them and liking them.. Well -- holly cow what a mess! I have had so many problems with them and there windows. Plus the people that installed the windows don't care! They just throw them in and leave... its up to you to go around and play with them and find all the bugs. Plus they must vacuum with a full bag because there was debrie all over the place. Then when you complain they throw you a gift card and say sorry. When they should have someone out there cleaning. Then they will make an appointment to come back out and look at the problem before they fix them. I have had more time off work waiting for someone to come out and fix the problem. Once they have there money --seeya-- So -- this is my opinion DON'T GO TO H*****S TO GET WINDOWS -- or don't pay them till everything is right!! If and when I might get some other windows. Or if I sell before then -- good luck to the next owner!!

angusyoung

10:05AM | 02/06/07
Member Since: 01/30/07
29 lifetime posts
I won't disclose whom I work for. That is truly a sales tactic straight out of the fifties. Ignore it or refuse to accept that behavior from any salesman. Tell them you don't give a crap about advertising anything and you want that price or you'll go some place else.

Buying replacement windows is very difficult for an average homeowner. It's war between these salesmen and they're out for blood. My only suggestion is shop everybody, tell them you are shopping and you don't care about any specials. Tell them you want their best price and say thank you then move on to another company and then do the same thing to the next company.

Make sure the window company has good credentials and is in good standings in the community. Whatever price they give you, you can knock some off the price. You actually have to battle these companies to get the lowest price and best deal. Most window salesmen get paid only on commission so they are very aggressive and you need to haggle with them to find what they really can do for you.

angusyoung

06:23AM | 02/07/07
Member Since: 01/30/07
29 lifetime posts
To the second person who answered your question: There is the difference of night and day in what kind of insulated glass unit you get. YOu better get low-e coated glass with argon gas injected in them or you are a flat out retard. Because you need those to become Energy Star Certified. Almost every Vinyl window company in the world gives you a LIFETIME warranty against cracking, peeling or warping.

10 years ago vinyl windows were nowhere near what they are today. Do a little more research before you come in here as a window expert. Wood windows with vinyl cladding are garbage. Look at NFRC's page or Energy Star's websites for the highest performing windows. Guess what? They're vinyl.
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