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timbob

08:34PM | 08/27/02
Member Since: 08/27/02
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Bvwindows
I just got two bids for replacing all the windows in our house in the seattle area. One company installs Eurocraft windows and the other Milgard (and others, too, but the bid is on Milgard). The Eurocraft seem like a higher quality window. Does anyone know of this line and how it stacks up against Milgard? Also, does it even make sense to explore wood clad replacements? I know they're more money, but they would look nicer inside.
thanks

gregorama

10:57AM | 01/01/05
Member Since: 12/31/04
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I ran across your message from on BobVila.com, and I'm now facing the same decision... What did you decide, and how did it all turn out?

Greg Anderson

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dpotter

05:25PM | 10/16/07
Member Since: 10/15/07
4 lifetime posts
Tim & Greg,

I'm actually a rep for Evans Glass, Inc., most likely the company you spoke with regarding Eurocraft windows. The main difference between Eurocraft and Milgard is the product used to stiffen the vinyl in the windows. Milgard uses recycled plastice which will break down in UV light, discolor and crack over time. Eurcraft windows are stiffened with acrylic. They will not break dow over time and can actually be painted with acrylic based paint, unlike most of the palsticized vinyl windows on the market today. I know you would expect this from a sales rep for the Eurocraft product, but you will definitely be happier with the Eurocraft. It's a 45+ year window that will save on your energy bill each month, provides added security (window glazing is on the inside), increases your resale value of your home through a lifetime transferable warranty, etc.

ms3389

09:11PM | 11/12/07
Member Since: 11/12/07
1 lifetime posts
I just had my milgard windows replaced with eurocraft by evans because the milgard wouldn't honor there warrenty because I live in westport with in 2 miles of the ocean. I didn't read the warrenty before I needed it. In the warrenty for milgard it says that being with in 2 miles of a saltwater body will void the warrenty. So what ever you by look for the small print.

Mike

cuts41

07:27PM | 12/27/07
Member Since: 12/27/07
1 lifetime posts
I just received a quote from an Evans Glass rep. I'm seriously thinking of accepting the bid. Is there any reason I should'nt? Would I be making a mistake?

dpotter

09:42AM | 03/04/08
Member Since: 10/15/07
4 lifetime posts
Your thinking of signing on with Evans for the Eurocraft window and want to know if you'd be making a mistake. Here's the way to look at it, you may spend more money initially, but in the long run you'll save $ not only on energy bills, but you've increased the resale value of your home and will actually get more money out than you put into it (see article in the Oregonian, dated February 24th, 2008 on remodeling project returns). You'll also gain added security and a transferable lifetime warranty.

windowmann2000

05:02AM | 03/27/08
Member Since: 02/28/07
11 lifetime posts
I've watched this thread and don't like companies that lie about their competition. Eurocraft is a thicker extrusion than Milgard but when you represent it to save more money on your energy bills...........document it. The savings when compared to Sun Coat Max by Milgard is not there. Another bold face lie is to state Milgard uses recycled plastic. There are currently no mfrg's in the US of which there are more than a thousand that use what is commonly called regrind to make their windows. Many companies use the regrind for balance covers and some small components, but any company that tells the potential customer the other guy uses recycled plastic should be taken out behind the barn.

dpotter

08:44AM | 04/05/08
Member Since: 10/15/07
4 lifetime posts
In reply to the "lies" you claim are being told, can you please share with us then what stiffener is used in the Milgard windows? The tone in your reply tells me you are most likely a Milgard rep. So let's really get to the bottom of this. I'm not here to bash another company or tell any lies. Speaking of lies, I did not state in my last post that you would save more on your energy bills than Milgard. I DID state that you would save more on your energy bills with the Eurocraft window. Now then, here are the main differences aside from the stiffener. Lifetime transferable warranty (Eurocraft) vs. 10 year transferable from the date of installation (Milgard). I have a copy of the warranty. No exclusions with the Eurocraft for 1) alterations to the frame including, but not limited to films and tints, paints, stains, customer applied finishes. 2) normal wear and tear, discoloration, natural weathering. 3) 50+ year life expectancy (Eurocraft) vs. Not even close, maybe 10 years (Milgard). Just to be clear, life expectancy does not mean that it's life has ended when the window falls out of the opening. Either there is a breakdown in materials or the customer becomes unsatisfied with the performance of the product.

dpotter

08:49AM | 04/05/08
Member Since: 10/15/07
4 lifetime posts
There is a quote in The Journal of Light Construction dated October 2002 that says: "European windows are built stronger than American windows, " says Bill Gorman, an engineer at Milgard Windows. The Eurocraft is based on a European design, hence the name Eurocraft. Basically what it comes down to gentlemen, is this. Would you rather do windows in your home once or more than that?

I eagerly await all of your replies.

wileocoyote

05:45PM | 04/23/08
Member Since: 04/22/08
1 lifetime posts
Where is there website and drawings. Milgard posts drawings and test ratings on their website. They also have a lifetime warranty for the original owner. Milgard's warranty includes labor. They are one of the most customer centered companies you will ever find, so you might want to do the research. They warranty on paper doesn't help much, if the company goes out of business. Where is the website for Eurocraft, and how long have they been around???
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