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snoltz

09:06PM | 10/24/02
Member Since: 10/24/02
2 lifetime posts
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Has anyone else had bad luck with Simonton windows?
I have a 3 year old home with Simonton Pro Finish windows. I am up here in Wisconsin where the cold and the wind can be pretty harsh. Let me tell you the windows are just not performing.

The air infiltration is so bad the curtains move with a 20 MPH wind. I have to install window insulating kits on my windows that face the west. The bulge of the plastic insulating kit sticks a good 3 to 4 inches into my living room.
Simonton reps have been out and said "The windows are performing within or exceeding mfg. specs.?"
They made this conclusion without any testing equpt. Then proceeded to insert foam squares down the side tracks of the windows. I was told this was to stop some of the infiltration?
Needles to say I have a complaint into the BBB and I have contacted the AAMA (these windows are AAMA and Energy Star certified)

At this point, until Simonton proves that it may be a possible install problem....

I would not recommend Simonton Pro Finish windows!!!!

snoltz

07:43PM | 11/12/02
Member Since: 10/24/02
2 lifetime posts
UPDATE

Simonton has proven the windows are performing within specs.

The builder is looking into the installation but since he has never had a problem with other windows he doubts the install is the problem...

Plus the neighbors put plastic on the outside of the windows and the draft was gone. The plastic was just over the window not beyond the window frame...

Just do your research.... mine were 3x's the advertised air infiltration and because the tolerances are so big the infiltration was acceptable.

So another year of 3M plastic kits on the windows.

I have a Yugo for windows I guess my expectations warrant a Lexus perhaps. If that what it takes next time I guess I'm shopping for a Lexus or BMW type windows.

YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

JasonP

04:23PM | 11/17/02
Member Since: 11/16/02
66 lifetime posts
Greetings Snolts,

It sounds like it could very well be an installation problem.

The only way I know of to tell would be to remove the window stops on the inside of the house and see if there is any insulation. Also, to see if they are shimmed properly.

The windows, unless defective, should not cause this problem.

Good luck,
Jason

BV000441

09:30AM | 02/24/13
We have air funneling up the channel of the window and the fine dirt the builder spread outside is coming inside. The Siminton rep. said no window is airtight and the air is concentrated to the channels not around the whole window so they are performing properly. He is shipping me foam squares to help with the problem. Humm...
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BV002443

03:30PM | 10/29/13
I have bougth simonton windows & hade them installed by reputable contractor.Simonton windows would perform well in a warm inviroment but not anywhere where it would get below zero. We hve these windows in our house & three of them condense alota water on the inside. We had simonton reps & the contractor look at them,no one wanted to help.Our humidity is 24 % in our house , so lets not even go there.The windows that you buy are as good as the dealer you buy them from.not happy but stuck!!!!!

NYCdoor

02:06AM | 10/30/13
Member Since: 10/18/13
3 lifetime posts
The item sounds like this could very well be an installing trouble. In order to I am aware associated with to express to would be to eliminate the eye-port stops within your home and pay attention to if you experience virtually any insulating material. In addition, to view if they are shimmed appropriately.

BV002977

04:37PM | 01/08/14
I bought Simonton windows through Home Depot Home Services, Columbus, OH. The model window was very nice, but mind do not fit like they do. My double-hung tilt windows have wide gaps where they close on the sides. I have packaging tape down the sides and rolled up paper towels in the tracks to stop some of the cold air. This is a complex of ranch condominiums just now at the age of needing replacement windows. I will not recommend Simonton to anyone. Half of our windows have been replaced by Rosatti, Champion, and Larmco;I am sorry I bought Simonton. The installers had glass from the old windows 4-5 feet into my rooms and even on my bed. A terrible experience which no one else in here has had. I was one of the to get new windows and learned the hard way, a lot of money and trouble.

BV003018

06:05PM | 01/13/14
sounds like an installation issue. I wouldn't get windows from big box stores, especially not installed by them.

jcaption

10:39AM | 01/14/14
Member Since: 01/14/14
85 lifetime posts
I've installed at least 50 Simonton windows. Never had a single complaint.
Unlock the window and try to move it side to side.
It should only move a tiny amount. Any more then about 1/16 then the side jambs where not shimmed properly and will let air in.
Remove the casing on the side of the windows to see if they just jammed in some fiberglass insulation. Compressed insulation is useless.
They should have used low expanding foam.
Where these new construction or replacement windows?
New construction should have had caulking behind the nailing fin and 6" wide window tape covering the fins. Skip that step and water and air can get in.
Replacement windows needed caulking around the old stops before the window went in, and expanding foam under the sill before the sealing strip went in on the bottom outside.

BV002977

09:44PM | 01/19/14
The windows were replacement windows in a brick ranch condominium 12 years old.
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