03:23PM | 12/10/02
Member Since: 12/09/02
2 lifetime posts
I am replacing casement windows on a 1910 mansion. The building has some historic value and the owner does nto wish to change the style of he windows. They have screens which run in steel channels on the inside of window opening. I have two questions.
1. I need operators, there are none now, only retainers, which will allow the windows to be operated from outside the screens a s there is some concern that much operating of the screens will destroy them and they are deemed difficult to replace. While money is not a great problem, it is a consideration as the house is the rectory for a church.
2. I'd also like to find corresponding locks to hold the windows when closed, for heat only as they are on the third floor.

Where is a good source for this hardware. The operators need to go through 3 1/2-4 inch sill.

Thanks for any help


05:05PM | 12/13/02
Member Since: 11/16/02
64 lifetime posts
Greetings Pokeyarw,


They have many products that I have found usefull in the past.

Items like operators cranks and a wide selection of hardware for glazing.

They might have what you need.

Let me know if this helps.

Good luck,


02:37AM | 12/14/02
Member Since: 11/25/02
12 lifetime posts
It sounds like you have old pella casements with retractable screens. This was a steel pan system with wood sash(s). On the inside trim, in front of the steel screen runner, Look to see if the trim is screwed on (not nailed), if so it's screwed to the steel pan.
Just remove the screws, take off the trim and then you'll be able to remove the screen box (Top)and repair as needed.
Hope this helps!


12:03PM | 12/23/02
Member Since: 12/09/02
2 lifetime posts
Hi Jason,

Thanks for the lead. I looked at the page you suggested and it seems they have what I need.

One thing that is not shown on the page is how deep the window sill can be with these operators. I must assume that the sills are either a standard depth or it doesn't make any difference. The handle assembly has to be on the inside of the screen which is 3 1/2" from the inside jam of the window.

Got any good words?

Thanks, ARW


03:25AM | 12/25/02
Member Since: 11/16/02
64 lifetime posts
Greetings and Merry Christmas,

I would contact C. R. Laurence and ask them what they would recomend. I'm sure they have a toll-free number.

If you talk with them directly, you may be able to order just one operator and return it if it's not the right one.

You may want to talk to a local hardware store for advice.

Good luck,



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