COMMUNITY FORUM

kilgen

07:54AM | 09/19/05
Member Since: 09/18/05
6 lifetime posts
Bvwindows
I had new thermopan glass installed in all my windows with Argon gas for noise control. There is no difference in the noise level from outside compared to the old glass. How do you tell if the gas was installed? The thermopan's are 7/16" thick is this to small an opening between the glass for the Argon to be effective? Thanks for any information.

Window4U

01:40PM | 09/19/05
Member Since: 09/09/05
21 lifetime posts
I'm sorry to tell you but argon gas in a double paned glass unit is not meant to significantly reduce noise. Certain noise as in highway traffic may be worse because of the frequency of the sound.

Triple with krypton would have been somewhat better, but laminated glass as one the the "panes" in your insulated glass unit would have been the best way to go for noise.

Your window guy must not have known this.

kilgen

10:43AM | 09/20/05
Member Since: 09/18/05
6 lifetime posts
Windows 4U Do they make thermopan with one glass laminated? I talked to a window company and they had never heard of it. Thanks Paul

Window4U

02:27PM | 09/20/05
Member Since: 09/09/05
21 lifetime posts
Any insulated glass unit with laminated glass is not really a true dual pane window because the laminated glass is two panes separated by PVB (polyvinyl butyral), and then there is another pane on the other side of the spacer, which makes it a triple pane if you want to get technical. That's why I had laminated "pane" in quotation marks.

There can be many configurations and layers in laminated glass depending on the application. My example is just one type.

Gorell calls their laminated glass "Keepsafe" glass, Schuco calls theirs "Hurricane ForceV", and so on.


Window4U

02:43PM | 09/20/05
Member Since: 09/09/05
21 lifetime posts
I typed too fast and didn't proof-read before posting. I meant to say Gorell calls theirs Armor Glass, and is made with Keepsafe glass

Here is a cross section diagram of an insulated glass unit with laminated glass:

http://home.insightbb.com/~window4u/wsb/media/1385102/site1020.jpg

kilgen

04:26AM | 09/21/05
Member Since: 09/18/05
6 lifetime posts
Windows 4U thank you for your information. Are there any firms that make laminated thermopan glass for replacement around the greather St. Louis Mo area. Windows are older Caradco and only 7/16" glass on the out side? Thank you.

Window4U

06:29AM | 09/21/05
Member Since: 09/09/05
21 lifetime posts
Are you wanting to replacing just the glass, or put in a replacement window?


kilgen

12:34PM | 09/21/05
Member Since: 09/18/05
6 lifetime posts
Just the glass the frames are in very good shape. The glass was just replaced but as mentioned the Argon had no effect.

Window4U

07:31AM | 09/23/05
Member Since: 09/09/05
21 lifetime posts
You are not going to find an insulated glass unit with laminated glass in a 7/16" unit I wouldn't think. The glass and PVB will be almost that thick all by themself.

You may want to consider a storm window with laminated glass instead.

kilgen

04:17AM | 09/24/05
Member Since: 09/18/05
6 lifetime posts
Thank you for sharing you expertise with me. I now have information to ask new questions about glass and noise control. Wouldlike to replace the entire window but there are always enconomic balances. If I had not had the all the thermopan's replaced the considerations would be different. The storm window idea sounds worth looking into. Cheers
Click_to_reply_button Inspiration_banner

INSPIRATION GALLERY



Post a reply as Anonymous

Photo must be in JPG, GIF or PNG format and less than 5MB.

Reply_choose_button

Anonymous

Post_new_button or Login_button
Register

Follow_banner_a
Newsletter_icon Google_plus Facebook Twitter Pinterest Youtube Rss_icon
 
webapp1