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Donna1

03:29AM | 06/21/05
Member Since: 05/18/02
11 lifetime posts
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I'm moving soon. My new landlord who just bought the house said he's replacing the front door lock because the deadbolt lock is rusty and doesn't work.

He doesn't want to replace locks on the back entry door and inner apartment door because it is expensive. I'm concerned that previous owners/tenants may have copies of keys.

One entry has a Segal deadbolt and also a doorknob lock which has no name printed on it.

The inner door has a lock with no name and near the knob is an old-fashioned keyhole (like for a skeleton key).

I had heard that it can be less expensive to "rekey" a lock than to replace the whole lock.

I'm wondering: are there certain things one can see by looking at a lock that indicate it could be rekeyed? Is rekeying something I could do or does one need a professional locksmith with special tools for that?

Thanks,

Donna

Billhart

06:05AM | 06/21/05
Member Since: 04/25/05
1915 lifetime posts
Any lock that uses a "cut key" can be rekeyed.

A cut key is one you can get duplicated at any hardware store.

Locks that use a stamped key or molded key, like small luggage locks or skelton keys can't be rekeyed.

There are DIY rekeying kits available, but I would not recommend trying to do that unless you are very expersienced with repairing items with lots of small parts.

Have in a lock rekeyed is very cheap if you can remove the cylinder and take it to a lock smith. I think that I paid about $3-5 /lock the last time. And I got several lock keyed together.

If the locksmith has to make a service call it will be much more.


Donna1

03:28PM | 06/21/05
Member Since: 05/18/02
11 lifetime posts
Thanks Bill! This sounds promising. Now I'll just need to see if I can look up how to remove a cylinder...

Re: the DIY kits, I guess I'm not very experienced so thanks for the advice.

Donna


doug seibert

07:49PM | 06/21/05
Member Since: 08/10/02
842 lifetime posts
Here's the site for the Segal locks....Nice locks ! .....go to the installation PDF and see how the locks are installed.......the keyed cylinder is attached to a back plate with some hidden screws.......

http://www.segallock.com/frameit.pl?http://www.segallock.com/products-store.asp

....and the unknown doorknob lock should remove with two screws from the interior side......

All you should need is a straight blade (-)and phillips (+) screwdriver

The Landlord should help with this process..........His unwillingness to make the lock change "might" indicate his future attitude to the property.......Renter Beware.......

And as Bill mentioned the cost is cheap compared to replacement......

Be sure to order additional keys for the Landlord........

Donna1

03:26AM | 06/22/05
Member Since: 05/18/02
11 lifetime posts
Thanks Doug!

Wow, this is great - you guys have been very helpful !

I'll go back and look at the locks more closely and find a local key place to inquire about bringing them in. I live in the Boston area so it may cost more than $5...

Re: the landlord, I have high hopes for him as he'll be living upstairs. I'm attributing his reluctance on Monday night re: the locks to his being momentarily overwhelmed by having closed on the house on Monday and preparing for movers on Tuesday. He also had a contractor friend with him to give estimates and prepare to remove a darkroom wall, replace a gas stove, etc. so I think he just reacted to the back door locks as an unnecessary expense. Anyway, I already signed the lease. :) But it's an interesting looking place - house built around 1890.

Many friends have said "you should change the locks" but I have yet to find a friend (even a new homeowner) who has actually had locks changed upon moving! I don't suppose I have in past rentals either.

Thanks again,

Donna

rowiga

03:39AM | 06/28/05
Member Since: 06/08/05
24 lifetime posts
My wife and I recently bought a house and found that all of the eight doors had different keys. We took the cylinders out and went to the locksmith. They re-keyed all of the locks to match one key...I get confused easily and don't want to have to deal with a ring full of keys. Sometimes, locksmiths will re-key your locks for free...or at a reduced rate...if you buy a new lockset from them. We paid $8 per lock.

Donna1

04:10AM | 06/28/05
Member Since: 05/18/02
11 lifetime posts
Wow, 8 locking doors!

I found a nearby locksmith who said I could save money by removing the locks and bringing them in to be rekeyed at $10 or so versus $60 or so. I said great!

Then my landlord decided to have the locksmith come to the house. He said it was $50 for 5 locks (being rekeyed and/or adjusted/oiled). I think he also said it was $38 for the service call.

It struck me that it might be safer to have different keys for the front and back doors (I suppose so that if you lose one you only need to have one lock rekeyed).

My landlord wanted all doors to have the same key but the locksmith misunderstood (for example there's one door with both a deadbolt and doorknob lock and now each have a different key) so they are working things out.

Soon I will be given keys. :)

Next I'll work on being sure all windows have operating window locks. :)

Thanks,

Donna
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