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CallieT

07:14PM | 07/17/08
Member Since: 07/15/08
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Thanks Larry, for the quick response. So, even if the "glowbar" lights right up, you think I need a new one? Am I correct to say that the "glowbar" is the same item/part as the Ignitor?

1.Should I try again to clean the holes with a wire brush or needle?

2. (this may sound really dumb) but, when the glow bar is on....should I attempt to light the burner assembly with a match/lighter? (like when your outdoor grill wont light by pushing the button, so you have to do it manually?) Or is that a big NO NO?

3. Lastly, how hard or difficult is it to replace the ignitor? Do I need to manually turn off the gas 'shut-off' valve on the stove before I replace it as well?

Thanks in advance!

Callie

CallieT

07:34PM | 07/17/08
Member Since: 07/15/08
7 lifetime posts
Thanks for the reply, I am new to this forum and initially thought your answer was in reply to the previous post, but soon realized it was directed to my question.

As you can see, I am still having a problem and would like to solve this before I get another gray hair!

So, it is between an ignitor or a burner. I wonder what tool I need to check the amperage coming from the glow bar to see if it is giving out enough energy?

Again, thank you for your reply!

Callie

CallieT

07:37PM | 07/17/08
Member Since: 07/15/08
7 lifetime posts
THAT IS THE SECOND PART OF THE MODEL #

DanO

10:27PM | 07/17/08
Member Since: 11/11/02
2274 lifetime posts
** I removed the flame spreader again, and turned the oven back on....nothing **

What exactly do you mean by "nothing"? Just no flame or no glow ignitor either??

If the ignitor IS glowing, is there also a gas smell when the oven is turned on?

** should I attempt to light the burner assembly with a match/lighter? **

No.

** SHOULD I TRY TO USE A METAL BRUSH? **

I wouldn't do anything further to the burner until you can provide a more detailed symptom description.

** I wonder what tool I need to check the amperage coming from the glow bar **

An ameter or amp probe. Not a tool found in most homeowner's tool kit.

** can I use my hand vacuum to clean up all the debris around the burner **

Vacuuming around the oven burner shouldn't hurt anything... providing it isn't hot at the time.

JMO

Dan O.

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LarryG

03:52AM | 07/18/08
Member Since: 07/22/04
526 lifetime posts
i call it an igniter you call it a glowbar.same thing.

shouldn't be too hard to change.i've done many.

no it wouldn't do any good to try to light by hand.because if any gas was coming out it would have lit by itself.

wouldn't do any good to clean the burner tube again you already did that.

i say you next step is replace the igniter,glowbar.it's probably weak and that is the part that takes a beating and wears out.

CallieT

09:40AM | 07/18/08
Member Since: 07/15/08
7 lifetime posts
AMANA GAS RANGE

MODEL #ARG7301WW P1143323NWW

SERIAL: 9710232146

HI JMO,

When I removed the Flame Spreader, this exposed the burner and ignitor for ease of troubleshooting.

The Ignitor always turns on, and lights up.

1. After the initial cleaning of the burner, I turned the oven dial on and everything seemed to be working fine. ie: ignitor turned on, blue flames came out of the burner and maintained a constant temperature.

Then,-after I had performed a "self-clean", to see if this feature would now work, it did! I used the oven for bake a few hours later......

The same symptom ocurred, the ignitor went on, but no flames were observed, YES, there was heat coming from the oven, but NO flames coming out of the burner mechanism:

****What exactly do you mean by "nothing"? Just no flame or no glow ignitor either? ****

ans: The Ignitor turned on, but no "flames" were observed. Heat was given off from the glowbar, but no flames. I did NOT smell any gas, only what an inside of the oven smells like after cleaning.

From my records, I had replaced the thermostat about 4 years ago.

Today, I tried this again, and sure enough the ignitor lit up, and the burner was emitting blue flames. But when I put the "FLAME SPREADER" back, and turned the oven OFF, then on again to bake cookies, the oven didnt seem to heat up completely.

Could this be intermittent? or Could the flame spreader hamper the burner operation? (as you recall from my earlier post, when I tried to loosen the nut, the bolt broke off. I tried to replace with another nut, but the bolt/screw was too short for contact.) Could this contribute to the problem? Does the flame spreader need to be tightly screwed for the burner to function correctly?

One thing I am noticing, is that it takes LONGER for the flames to come thru (than the average 90 seconds)

For example: Ten minutes ago I set the dial to 350. 5 minutes went by, and no flames, then set the dial to 450 after ten minutes oven was hot, but no flames?

I THEN SET TIMER FOR ANOTHER 5 MINUTES, AND 1 MINUTE LATER THE FLAMES TURNED ON. Total preheating time for flames to come on today = 11 minutes.

I have a "MULTIMETER" from DIGITEK Model # DS830B+ This should work to see the amperage, but I dont remember how to test it! the MAX OHMs are 2000, MA 200 Max, 500V

http://www.digitek.com.hk/

Can I use this to test the current? How would I do this?

Ok, hope this helps.

Thanks again,

Callie T

LarryG

09:59AM | 07/18/08
Member Since: 07/22/04
526 lifetime posts
my diagnosis still stands.

CallieT

08:21PM | 07/18/08
Member Since: 07/15/08
7 lifetime posts
Hi Larry,

Thanks again for the reply. OK so I need to replace the ignitor.

How hard is it to do myself?

Do I need to shut off the gas? Or is it just removing a screw and an electrical wiring thing?

Any advice is greatly appreciated!

Callie the repairgal!

DanO

09:30PM | 07/18/08
Member Since: 11/11/02
2274 lifetime posts
** I have a "MULTIMETER" from DIGITEK Model DS830B+ This should work to see the amperage **

I don't see that meter listed on their web site. I have no idea of its abilities, sorry.

** Does the flame spreader need to be tightly screwed for the burner to function correctly? **

No. It should not affect operation of the burner or ignitor.

** The Ignitor turned on, but no "flames" were observed. I did NOT smell any gas **

Than the burner has nothing to do with your problem as it would NOT totally stop gas from flowing into the oven. The oven gas valve can not be opening to allow gas through so either it is defective or the oven ignitor is 'weak' and needs to be replaced as Larry said.

A malfunctioning ignitor is the most common cause (70-80%) of trouble on such an ignition system. And yes, an oven ignitor can glow and still be defective.

- Amana ARG7301WW Bake Ignitor

LINK > www.appliance411.com/data.php?ap=AP172397

** Do I need to shut off the gas? **

No, just the power.

** is it just removing a screw and an electrical wiring thing? **

Yes... as long as the screw(s) cooperate. The wiring might also need to be cut and joined together using *ceramic* (not plastic!) wire nuts if the wire plug is not the same as the original.

JMO

Dan O.

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