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Kathy55

01:59PM | 03/19/07
Member Since: 02/12/06
34 lifetime posts
Bvelectrical
We need to get a dishwasher that can be side mounted to the cabinets rather than top mounted to the counters. We have been to every appliance store in our area and the sales people are not able to tell us which dishwashers can be side mounted and many have not even heard of side mounting dishwashers. Does anyone know what brands of dishwashers have side mounting capability (other than Bosch)? Does this type of installation require some sort of a kit and if so where can I get a kit like this? Thanks.

DanO

06:06PM | 03/19/07
Member Since: 11/11/02
2271 lifetime posts
** We need to get a dishwasher that can be side mounted. **

Why? Maybe the link below is the reason?

- We're installing a new granite counter top and need to know how to fasten our built in dishwasher to it.

LINK > http://www.appliance411.com/links/jump.cgi?ID=700

AFAIK only GE and Frigidaire models can be side mounted using an optional accessory package. Whirlpool models can be floor mounted if they can not be mounted to the counter top.

** Does this type of installation require some sort of a kit? **

Yes.

** if so where can I get a kit like this? **

Most likely from a part supplier for the particular brand of dishwasher.

JMO

Dan O.

www.Appliance411.com/parts/?ref411=Dishwasher

The Appliance Information Site

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Kathy55

06:16PM | 03/19/07
Member Since: 02/12/06
34 lifetime posts
Thank you Dan for your help. Yes, the reason we need a side mounted dishwasher is because we are getting granite counters and the granite company told us not to attach the dishwasher to the granite. This has really been a frustrating process trying to find appliance sales people who know about their appliances. I feel like I have to do their job in order to get what I need. Thanks again. I will look into one of the brands that you mentioned.

DanO

09:08PM | 03/19/07
Member Since: 11/11/02
2271 lifetime posts
** we are getting granite counters and the granite company told us not to attach the dishwasher to the granite. **

I was told that a granite countertop should have a wooden substrate which a dishwasher could possibly be mounted to. They said, "a good counter top installer will install minimum 1/2 inch thick plywood subtop to provide support for the counter. I wasn't aware that people were actually not doing that".

I an not however in the countertop business so I do not know the validity of their assertions. You could look into it though?

JMO

Dan O.

www.Appliance411.com

The Appliance Information Site

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Kathy55

04:39AM | 03/20/07
Member Since: 02/12/06
34 lifetime posts
You bring up a good point and I think that maybe I need to rethink our choice of counter installers or ask a few more questions. None of the places that we talked to have said that they install the plywood under the granite. In fact one place (and this is a place that does entire kitchens, not just granite counters) actually told me that they would drill holes in the granite to mount the dishwasher. That is why we are considering the other granite company as they told us there was a possibility for the granite to crack if a dishwasher is attached. If plywood were placed under the granite then we could get a top mounted dishwasher. In either case, it makes sense to me to have plywood under the granite. Thanks so much for your input.

Billhart

04:52AM | 03/20/07
Member Since: 04/25/05
1915 lifetime posts
Some installs use a thinner granite and they doubt up the front edges and install it over plywood.

Other uses thicker granite and don't use plywood.

I have no personal knowledge of this, but I have heard that the differences is regional.

IIRC it is 3 mm or 5 mm thickness.

Kathy55

07:13AM | 03/20/07
Member Since: 02/12/06
34 lifetime posts
I have been doing some more research and I have been reading that it is regional as to how this is done and that the thinner granite requires plywood and the 1 and 1/4" that we are getting does not. I also talked again to the granite company that we are considering and they confirmed this. They also told me that they could put a little piece of wood under the area where the dishwasher is and glue the dishwasher to it and that this would avoid a cracking problem. We prefer not to do this as it seems that it would be very difficult to remove the dishwasher if we needed repairs or to replace it

Billhart

07:56AM | 03/20/07
Member Since: 04/25/05
1915 lifetime posts
I don't think that they clearly communicated what they could do.

The DW that I have seen have a thin metal "plate" that is screwed intot he countertop. It would really not old being "glued".

I think that what they are saying is that the wood would be glued to the bottom of the counter top. Then the DW screwed into the wood.

You need to verify that with them.

DanO

08:25AM | 03/20/07
Member Since: 11/11/02
2271 lifetime posts
** I think that what they are saying is that the wood would be glued to the bottom of the counter top. Then the DW screwed into the wood. **

I agree and the company needn't necessarily put wood under the whole area of the dishwasher (if it isn't needed for support), just a thin ¾ x ¾ strip for example along the front edge for the dishwasher to screw to.

Such a strip might even be able to be mounted just to the cabinets on either side of the dishwasher opening and not to the top itself.

** it would be very difficult to remove the dishwasher if we needed repairs or to replace it **

Always good to keep in mind! BTW. If you're tiling the floors too, make sure it is either laid beneath the dishwasher as well or the flooring there is raised to the same height. Otherwise, the dishwasher might not be able to be pulled out for service either.

JMO

Dan O.

www.Appliance411.com/?ref411=Dishwasher

The Appliance Information Site

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Kathy55

10:26AM | 03/20/07
Member Since: 02/12/06
34 lifetime posts
Thank you Bill and Dan for your responses. It makes much more sense to me to screw the dishwasher into a piece of wood that is glued to the counter. Also, we are not getting new floors and I have measured the height of the opening that we have. That was one piece of information that the appliance sales people did mention to me. I think I may have my problem resolved. I have resorted to calling places (rather than stopping in and talking to sales people) to see what their knowledge is regarding side mounting dishwashers and I believe that I have found someone who knows what they are talking about. The sales person told me that some of the dishwashers have what I would call a small cap on both sides of the dishwasher near the top. He told me that the installers remove these caps and that under the cap there is a hole that a screw is screwed through and then into the sides of the cabinets. I plan on going to this appliance store and meeting with him sometime this week and will hopefully have my new side mounted dishwasher! By the way, I have noticed these "caps" when looking at dishwashers and it seems that I have only seen them on dishwashers with stainless steel tubs. Thanks again.
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