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tomh

08:06AM | 10/13/04
Member Since: 07/01/03
550 lifetime posts
Those gaps you uncovered were intentionally built into the wall to allow water to drain out of the wall to the drain. They must have been plugged by clay. As you proceed around the footer try to clean out any of these weep holes you can find. It is important that the backfill be washed drain rock so that they continue to function in the future. I think you found the root cause of your problem.

dadof5

11:06AM | 10/13/04
Member Since: 09/16/04
16 lifetime posts
thanks tom I appreciate the input!

cellarwater

03:48PM | 10/14/04
Member Since: 12/09/03
175 lifetime posts
Tom H. is right. fill everything up with stone. Leave the gaps open. Where is the drain going to end?? Where the pipe lets out the water must be lower than the floor in the cellar, in order for it to drain properly. Let me know what happens. C.

tomh

09:43PM | 10/14/04
Member Since: 07/01/03
550 lifetime posts
Good job pointing dadof5 to the solution of his problems. Obviously his exterior wall was all silted in sealing water in the basement and preventing proper drainage. It seems that proper backfill is so inexpensive compared to the damage and cost to go back and correct the easily prevented mistake. I really don't understand why general contractors allow their excavation subs to take this kind of shortcut.

cellarwater

01:59AM | 10/15/04
Member Since: 12/09/03
175 lifetime posts
A little common sense goes a long way! C.

dadof5

05:30AM | 10/15/04
Member Since: 09/16/04
16 lifetime posts
thanks to Tom and 'C'. I feel confident now that I'm on the right track. Just to update you guys (in case you have more good advise to add) I had to dig approx 2 feet below the level of the basement floor to get to the weep holes (and I still didnt hit the footer). Anyway of course, the rain has been back for 3 days here in the burg and my trench has been full of approx 8 inches of water stopping progress. My yard gets a river of run off from the street above and the leach bed at the end of the drain is full, but the water is still about 18 inches below the level of the basement floor and every thing has been dry so far. Can I assume Ive probably solved the problem. Due to the way my property is situated I cannot dig any lower or increase the size of the leach bed, the only other possibility is sumping the water uphill to the front street. I'm hoping you'll say its ok!!!! Ps

the area of the leach bed is approx 9 inches below the level of the basement floor and 6 inches lower than the highest end of the french drain. Much thanks again in advance

dadof5

05:32AM | 10/15/04
Member Since: 09/16/04
16 lifetime posts
Also, I agree, if they are going to put weep holes in the block spend 50 dollars and put gravel and a pastic pipe down before you backfill. The soil here in the burg is almost entirely clay, which was what was backfilled against the weep hole. Even I know thats not too smart!

cellarwater

03:19PM | 10/15/04
Member Since: 12/09/03
175 lifetime posts
Yes, go ahead and pipe the drain to the sump pump.Be careful about street pumping it. The water can freeze if you're in a cold climate [I'm in Mass.:)] and be a hazard for cars. If there is an actual field underground I suggest not to use it. You'll be pumping that water too. Best to let the sump pump drain to a low area away from the house. C.

dadof5

03:33PM | 10/17/04
Member Since: 09/16/04
16 lifetime posts
Well, after 6 days of digging out and filling in, the french drain is complete, and except for a few blisters I've survived.Thanks for all the input and guidance. Believe it or not, we got some rain mid week after the trench was dug and sort or got in a hurry to lay the pipe and back fill with the gravel, I kind of forgot to tar the block beneath the level of the basement floor. Its backfilled with 6 ton of gravel that I dont want to remove,and I'm looking for some peace of mind that its ok. so just tell me not to worry everything will be all right and this will be my last response!!! Many thanks Bob
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