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Nanairen

07:13AM | 01/29/03
Member Since: 01/28/03
4 lifetime posts
Bvelectrical
I'm in the process of installing a new kitchen, including dark quartz countertops. In a previous kitchen, I bought counters with a more matte/flat finish because of the glare & reflection from the undercounter lights. With the quartz, I'm concerned that the shiny surface will reflect the bottom of the maple cabinets & the wiring & therefore detract from the counters. I'm thinking that I'll attach matte black shelving (trimmed in maple) underneath the cabinets & then recess black undercounter lights in the shelving. Is this a reasonable solution or are there others?

TerribeTrouble

06:59PM | 02/13/03
Member Since: 02/12/03
5 lifetime posts
Very lengthy, but here is what I did.

I had to raise my cupboards by 4 inches, and I was really concerned that you would easily see the Halogen lights & wiring, so I bought 1/4 Maple Plywood, and I cut ceilings for every cupboard. I then took 1 x 2 maple lenghts, and I routed edges out, 1/4" deep, so that when I screwed these 1 x 2's to the edges of teh existing cupboards, the plywood would just slot in. I then cut round holes for the Halogen lights, which are all connected to a dimmer.

Now when you get beneath the cabinets, you just see this wonderful maple plywood, and the halogens, dimmed.

It was probably about 2 weekends work for an average kitchen, but so well worth it.

electricmanscott

04:49AM | 02/27/03
Member Since: 11/05/01
98 lifetime posts
Trouble,
If you have those little puck lights you may have created a fire hazard. Gennerally those are not to be mounted in an enclosed area where the back side will not be open for ventilation.

Nanairen

08:36AM | 02/27/03
Member Since: 01/28/03
4 lifetime posts
Thanks for the info guys. I'm mounting them this weekend. The counters were installed last weekend & I right about how shiny they are.

e-manscott, I tried to consider the ventilation & will use molding around the edges that'll let me put vent space (1/2")between the bottom of the cabinet & the boards that the lights are mounted in. I'm also going to cut the mounting boards less than full-cabinet depth to let the air circulate out the back, by the backsplash.

Thx.

sungen99

10:15AM | 04/04/03
Member Since: 03/23/03
40 lifetime posts
I have to tell you guys. Was debating on low voltage under cabinet lighting or those little puck lights. My electrician said the same thing as electricmanscott said about the fire hazard. However, I looked at the box and showed him the new puck ones and they say right on the box can be used as under cabinet lighting. I showed it to my electrician and he said ok. And they were installed. I must admit that if you leave them on full power for an extended time that the wood does warm up to the touch- no drought about it. But they were approved so I just make sure to not keep them on full blast for long periods of time.

Just my 2 cents.

Nanairen

09:22AM | 04/05/03
Member Since: 01/28/03
4 lifetime posts
sengen,

'preciate it. I got similar feedback from an electrician buddy.

To account for the time of day & need for use, I put them on dimmers.

sungen99

08:33AM | 04/07/03
Member Since: 03/23/03
40 lifetime posts
I did the same thing. All on Lutron dimmers. It actually worked out really nicely. I have 3 systems. 1 switch is for the lower cabinet lighting. One controls rope lighting above the cabinets and then one more controls the over the sink light that illuminates a glass front cabinet. I am very pleased. But I still am very aware of how long they are one for. I did a test one day when I knew I would be home the entire day. I kept them on all day. Say 18 hours. They got VERY warm to the touch for sure. But never to the point that I could not keep my fingers there. So I feel good that they will never be left on for 18 hours and it passed my personal test.

electricmanscott

02:39PM | 04/08/03
Member Since: 11/05/01
98 lifetime posts
If you feel that these lights should not be left on because they will get to hot why on earth would you allow them to be installed in your house. Also the problem i was pointing out is generally not the lights themselves but the wiring that comes with the lights. This wiring can not be run inside walls or through cabinets nor can you substitute lamp cord for this wiring.

sungen99

05:45AM | 04/10/03
Member Since: 03/23/03
40 lifetime posts
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?CNTTYPE=NAVIGATION&CNTKEY=market%2fpg_zip_code.jsp&BV_SessionID=@@@@0036649589.1049985673@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccejadchmmj ijhgcgelceffdfgidgnl.0&search_text=undercabinet%20lighting&DRC=4

That is the link for the light I had installed. I'm a bit nervous now with all our comments. Please do me a favor and have a look at them ok? Let me know what you think? I dont really WANT to replace them BUT if they are unsafe its simpally a must do then.

electricmanscott

03:21AM | 04/12/03
Member Since: 11/05/01
98 lifetime posts
Read the info that came with the lights. Oh you threw that away? Did you read it BEFORE you installed the lights?
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