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JasonInBaltimore

09:45PM | 01/01/05
Member Since: 01/01/05
2 lifetime posts
Bvelectrical
Okay - Here is my question. I am installing a new three-light fixture above the bathroom sink in my new condo, and this is replacing an old three-light fixture. I turned off the power at the circuit breaker, tested to make sure it was not hot, removed the light bulbs, removed the fixture, and came to the base plate with the sockets. Turns out that the original builder actually welded the hot wires to the sockets, so rather than trying to "unweld" them, I just snipped them and removed the old base plate.

But now I am not sure what the proper was to mount the NEW base plate is. Should I just attach it to the wall (drywall) using anchors and/or molly bolts, or should I try to connect the base plate to the old junction box? The old box does not have many "holes" to screw the new base plate too, and even when I do, it is not holding it tightly. I therefore concluded that the stability/strength of the mount will need to come from attaching the plate directly to the wall, rather than to the junction box.

Question #2 - after I attach black to black and use a wire connector, and do the same with the whites and the grounds (leaving me with three wire connectors with two wires going into each, can I then secure the BOTTOM of the wire connector with electrical tape for added safety? My thinking is that htis way, if one of the wires HAPPENS to slip out of the connector, the electrical tape will keep it in place as a backup.

Can anyone answer/confirm my thoughts?

THanks - Jason (Speegs@aol.com)

tperez

06:02AM | 01/02/05
Member Since: 09/24/04
128 lifetime posts
Jason,

The installation of the light kit should be done as the manufacturer suggests. If this is not possible or seems to be unstable then it is not a problem to reinforce the mounting by securing it to the box and by mounting directly to the wall.

Unless the fixture is unreasonably heavy the fixture can probably be mounted directly to the drywall with some toggle bolts without any difficulties.

You can use tape to help secure the connector if you want to. The tape will not keep the wires from slipping out of the connector however. The tape will only help keep the connector on the ends of the wires.

Make sure you have a tight connection on the wires at the start and you should have no problems with wires slipping off the connectors.

One other thing. If your house has aluminum wires then you will need some "Noalox" for the connections. Assuming the wires in the light kit are copper of course.

U.S.M.C. Semper Fi !!!

Wireman

09:05PM | 01/02/05
Member Since: 12/19/04
62 lifetime posts
Jason,

You may mount the fixture over the junction box and anchor it to the wallboard. Make sure you have a ground connection from the box to the fixture, either with the screw connected to the box in the wall or with ground wires from the box to the ground wire on the fixture.

You may not connect aluminum wire to copper wire under any circumstance, noalox or no noalox. You would have to find a special connector for terminating them together and it would have a cu/al rating on it. Hard to find today.

Ron
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