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piz_bruin

01:32AM | 11/07/01
Member Since: 08/02/01
18 lifetime posts
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Hi,
I have a new home that is under construction where the garage slab has just been poured.

At some point, probably in the spring, I'd like to paint or seal the floor. Im looking for something really durable & resistant to wear, oils, solvents, etc. Something similar to what's used in aircraft hangars. I got a price from a coating manufacturer who deals with commercial situations and the product was very expensive (~$1000.00) to do an average size garage.

Are there any alternatives or has anyone had good luck with a different product?

Thanks!
~ Piz

Jay J

04:11AM | 11/07/01
Member Since: 10/26/00
782 lifetime posts
Hi piz_bruin,

You might not want to hear this but I wouldn't seal it. For one, concrete wants to breath. It's a pourous material. By sealing it, you could end up with blistering and such. Then, next thing you know, you'll be asking 'us' what's wrong w/your painted/sealed floor.

Also, think about it. I think the reason you want to do this is because it looks 'nice'. Yes, it does, but think about this also - You park your cars on it, you don't eat on it, you don't entertain your guests on it, and you don't use it as a 'sitting room' or anything where it's heated and cooled like the rest of the house. In fact, I bet you spent the LEAST amount of time in the garage than you do any other room in the house. And to boot, those shiney floors can get slippery (but you could use a Gritted-Sealer to help prevent that.)

For me, and I speak for me, garage floors will get dirty and oiled-up and have ALL kinds of stuff spilled on them. Heck, it's just a garage floor. If I ate on it, entertained my guests on it, slept on it, or used it like another room in the main house, then I'd look into making into more than it is. Others will differ and that's OK w/me.

My best to ya and hope this helps.

Jay J -Moderator

PS: God Bless America!

tygar663

05:45PM | 11/07/01
Member Since: 11/04/01
14 lifetime posts
Concrete stain which you can find in home depot or lowes i also saw another one that is tougher than the stain it is like an epoxy paint be sure to let the concrete cure and a paint floor is nice.

good luck

Alan

01:09AM | 11/09/01
Member Since: 10/09/01
48 lifetime posts
I agree with Jay J emphatically but if you must.....

I had a small automotive garage and wanted the floor to "look nice" - a pleasant color with white stripes to show customers where they could and could not walk. So I guess I can understand your desire. Here's what I did.

It is extremely important to prepare the floor for painting by first "washing" it with Muriatic acid (follow instructions on container exactly). This process etches the concrete and the paint will adhere better. Thoroughly rinse with water and let dry. Then simply apply a GOOD QUALITY FLOOR PAINT.

You will then have to treat the new floor with respect - put things down as opposed to throwing them down - it is only paint and it will chip and eventually wear thin with use - but it should not just flake off which is probably what you are worried about.

Good luck.

piz_bruin

09:12AM | 11/09/01
Member Since: 08/02/01
18 lifetime posts
For those who are interested in the same thing as in my original post, check out www.seal-it.com and look at their Concrete Sealer, which happens to be clear.

The rest of you who felt the need to make assumptions as to the reasons why I'd like to seal the floor, you were wrong.

When one spends upward of $500k on a new home, its worth looking into a product which would help keep its appearance. Not only from an everyday standpoint, but also in cases where the eventual spills of oil, coolant, chemicals, paint, etc. are easily cleaned up instead of staining the floor or being stepped in and tracked through the house.

Im from the school where you take care of your things, be it your tools, cars, house, and they will last much longer. Im not one to look the other way just because things happen.
Why bother painting the exterior of the house if that's the thought process? Because it looks nice? I paint mine to protect it, even though I don't spend much time sitting next to it.

Peeling paint and coatings that cannot withstand the everyday uses of a garage without being "careful" are not what I'm after, hence my original post.
~Piz

Jay J

03:48PM | 11/09/01
Member Since: 10/26/00
782 lifetime posts
Hi piz,

Sorry friend, I didn't mean to set you off. You're going to do whatever you want. From experience, I don't recommend it, that's all. Again, you're gonna do what you want. Some folks don't think past the 'it looks nice' perspective. Hence, MY position on the subject.

Sorry, again, but I don't understand your 'thinking' about painting, and not painting, the exterior of the house. (You don't park your car on it, I hope.) Yes, protect it but their 2 completely different animals. It would be one thing if you compared the garage floor to your poured basement floor. Then, maybe you have a point.

Anyways, I'm not looking for a fight. It's your $500K house. I'm sure it's nice.

Jay J -Moderator

PS: God Bless America!

Alan

11:19AM | 11/10/01
Member Since: 10/09/01
48 lifetime posts
I guess we were in the wrong - we should have consulted our crystal balls before trying sincerely to help. You would think for $500,000 the builder would "throw-in" a floor sealer - if it means so much to you!

fredski53

04:49PM | 02/23/02
Member Since: 02/22/02
1 lifetime posts
Boy, if I was building a $500k house I wouldn't think that a $1,000 was too much for a painted floor.

Randy Colin

11:16AM | 03/25/02
Member Since: 04/14/01
43 lifetime posts
I have to agree wiyh piz_bruin.I just had a house built in the 500k area and I am always looking for ways or products to protect it.piz_bruin,I am also looking for a product to protect my garage floor.I found a product that should fit your need for half that cost if you have a two car garage.Check out www.ucoatit.com. I live in an area that uses chemicals to melt snow so protecting the floor from these corrsive materials is a high priority.Also contrary to what other members have said you should only have to wait six months after the floor has been poured before you seal it.Good luck.

piz_bruin

08:56AM | 04/22/02
Member Since: 08/02/01
18 lifetime posts
Haven't checked this thread in a while!

After a LOT of research I ended up going with a product called ArmorSeal 1000HS from Sherwin Williams. You can find more detailed info on it at the S.W. website.

The ArmorSeal is a 2-part epoxy coating which seems to be the way to go for durability, etc. I washed the floor twice with muriatic acid, followed by a few big boxes of baking soda to neutralize any leftover acid in the slab. Rinse, rinse, and rinse. Let it dry for a few days with the Reddy heater and a box fan.

The coating was very easy to work with, just mix equal amounts of the coating and hardener, let it sweat in, and roll it on. 4 gallons gave me 2 coats. I had a little extra that I applied to an old patio block I had laying around to use as a test piece. I was able to really beat up that test piece before it showed any signs of damage so Im not worried about my garage floor at all. This is some tough stuff!

The coating has been on for 3 months and looks as good as the day I rolled it on. Dirt & salt sweeps right out, and grease wipes right off.

Highly Recommended!
~ Piz
*edit - The product retails for $106 per gallon, but my local Sherwin Williams dealer knocked it down to $73.

[This message has been edited by piz_bruin (edited April 22, 2002).]

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