10:40AM | 01/30/04
Member Since: 01/07/04
10 lifetime posts
Tank fill is fine.
No leaks.
Water swirls round and round when flushed.
Stuff disappears.
Then it backwashes the last bit of water (and whatever is riding the surf at that moment)

Doesn't seem like a clog. Or is it?
I've plunged it. Plunged it like my life depended on it.


03:40PM | 01/30/04
Member Since: 06/06/03
1250 lifetime posts
Has it ALWAYS done this? If so, it may be a venting problem. Drains need "air" to help all that sentimental stuff go down.

Things that come to mind...maybe the vent is too far from the toilet. Or maybe the vent (up to the roof) could be somehow clogged.

I guess it could be the toilet itself; I've found some toilets just work better than others.


04:25PM | 01/30/04
Member Since: 01/07/04
10 lifetime posts
Toilet has done this since we moved in (2 yrs).
vent pipe is hmmm. where is it. I'll go look on the roof during daylight.
This toilet is downstairs, the upstairs one works fine.

Could be a bad design.


05:07PM | 01/30/04
Member Since: 09/16/02
251 lifetime posts
I know of someone that had a bird die in their vent pipe as K2 suggested. He plunged and plunged also until someone suggested checking the vent pipe. I'm not sure how he got the bird out. I'm not sure why the bird went there to die. Any ideas how to get the vent pipe unplugged if it is that K2?

Good Luck,


06:31PM | 01/30/04
Member Since: 06/06/03
1250 lifetime posts
Hi there Devildog,

I had some poorly designed venting in a house a while back. The kitchen sink drain was too far from the vent stack. So the garbage disposal never did work right.

I don't have first-hand experience 'snaking' from the roof, but I've seen it done. I would imagine that this would remove any stuck birds, however.

As for the toilet in question, I guess it may be possible that there is some kind of clog that plunging isn't clearing. It's probably easier to try a toilet auger than to reengineer vent pipes. Just in case there's a mass of hair or something that plunging isn't working on. I would think that if it's a clog of some sort, it would get progressively worse--not stay about the same for 2 years.

But as we all know, plumbing can take on a life of its own!

Best of luck,


07:22AM | 01/31/04
Member Since: 12/09/03
178 lifetime posts
Try to raise the fill level in the tank higher,also make sure the little hose that squirts out water is in the overflow tube. See if that helps. C.


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