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Tnorm52

02:33AM | 09/21/05
Member Since: 09/20/05
2 lifetime posts
Bvplumbing
When flushing the toilet the water goes down a little slow and the flap seems to close off the flow a little soon. Once the tank is filled then the water level in the bowl is close to as high as it should be. For the next few minutes the level in the bowl will go down until it is about ¼ of where it should be. During this process there will be a groaning sound.

It began about six months ago. I replaced all of the tank parts. Had the septic tank pumped out, and added 10 feet of length to a vent. Then when I was headed to buy a new toilet it suddenly started working correctly. It worked fine for about 3 months and now it is back to the above problem.

The toilet sits on top of the main stack. There is no large vent coming off the stack. It would take major remodeling to fix that. The kitchen sink is vented with drain pipe. Coming off the washer in the basement there is another vent (drain pipe size) about 10 feet from the septic tank. This is the one that I lengthened six months ago.

The septic system was installed about 20 years ago. The ground above the drainfield is covered with blackberries. I have sprayed them and plan on attacking them the necessary hardware. Could the blackberries be an issue? Should I use septic tank root killer? (Roebic K-77 Root Killer)

What else can I do?


RayVinZant

07:22PM | 09/26/05
Member Since: 08/29/04
227 lifetime posts
Here's what I suggest. Take a bucket of water, about the same amount as in the tank. If its a 1.6 gallon tank, use that much water. Pour it into the bowl. If it doesn't flush, its either a vent problem or a drain problem. If its an instant backup, it could be in the trap. If it kinda swirls its either a drain backup or a vent problem. You have to have a vent on a toilet for it to function properly. For every gallon of water you put into the plumbing system, you have to displace a gallon of air. If that air can't go up the vent and the drain is partially clogged, then you will have a slow running toilet. Water simply won't go into a closed container. Remember when you put a straw into a glass of pop with your thumb on the end, no water would go into the straw. This is the same concept.

Now if the toilet flushes every time you pour a bucket of water into it. Then its a tank problem or a rim jet problem. Not enough water is going into the bowl fast enough.

Raymond VinZant Plumbing Prof.

RayVinZant

07:23PM | 09/26/05
Member Since: 08/29/04
227 lifetime posts
By the way, this is especially true of septic systems.

Raymond VinZant Plumbing Prof.

Tnorm52

07:00PM | 09/28/05
Member Since: 09/20/05
2 lifetime posts
Thanks for taking the time to respond and advise. I went a different route though.. I bought a new toilet and it works fine. It is possible that it was just in the seal area. (I installed a non wax seal a couple of years ago) But the main thing is I have a toilet that flushes very well now.
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