04:32PM | 03/01/06
Member Since: 02/28/06
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I live in a coop, who believes in rip out and replace....probaly because of either the lack of will or knowledge.

My shower faucet is about an inch too far from its plate, and it appears that water is leaking through this opening behind the wall. Is there anything that I can install to remedy this situation. An extension or an apron or something that would cover the opening?

The plumber they sent to my house told me to replace the whole shower assembly.

It is practically brand spanking new...Kholer K-8224-4 Taboret® Bath and Shower Faucet Trim. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.


04:05AM | 03/02/06
Member Since: 01/24/06
1449 lifetime posts
You said you live in a COOP that means you own stock in a corporation that allows you a certain amount of square feet to live in YOU ARE NOT in a condo where you bought the farm and are totally responsible fro in the wall plumbing walls etc.

About Kohler In my humble opinion You could not give me a kohler product to install or service.

I see Kohler I look to see if a garbage can is available to throw it away and put in something user friendly

erik peterson

05:43AM | 03/02/06
Member Since: 06/23/03
224 lifetime posts
Call a reputable company on your own and mention the make and model. Be sure the plumber this company sends out knows how to work on decorative fixtures. I would guess that the person your building/management company sent to you was a "handy-man" with limited experience. In my opinion Kohler had its problems in the late 80s and into the mid 1990s but has resolved most of these issues and has regained the good reputation it previously had. erik


12:38PM | 03/02/06
Member Since: 01/24/06
1449 lifetime posts
Hi Erik I have 3 kohler toilets in my shop they were in service for less then a month before my company was called to remove and replace them and the other plumber was thrown off the job.

Would you like to buy them 1/2 price?

Kohler is GREAT if you think so, far be it for me to ever second guess anyone.

All I know if one needs kohler parts they have to figure out if the ball **** is a fluid master 400A or an east coast foundry and of course everyone knows the BEST faucets have plastic inside parts and being imported from Mexico makes them really quality products that anyone would be proud to own.

The only thing is I constanly see "the bold look of Kohler" but never heard any Master plumber say the Quality of their products.

I installed over 1,500 Crane toilets and not one single call back. All gravity type and 1.6 GPF

I also have a plumbers discussion group with plumbers and engineers on it and I yet to hear a good word the product.

To each his own I guess.

FYI most builders go price shopping and normally the lowest bid gets the contract

Over the last 37 years I believe I have installed over 210 various makers of faucets and shower body's BUT then again I may have missed the great one you were talking about and none of my employees ever installed this product in their homes and neither have I.

A lot can be said if a product under the tank lid tells you how to trouble shoot a product huh?

Hey it is only my humble opinion...

erik peterson

02:31PM | 03/02/06
Member Since: 06/23/03
224 lifetime posts
The Kohler company has had its problems and again in my opinion they have rectified most of these....Im right behind you with 35 years in the trade. As I mentioned before its important to get a plumber with the skills to work on decorative fixtures. Im assuming the toilets your speaking of are the one-piece models... the "rialto" in particular was a night-mare toilet. In my opinion the Kohler "well-worth" is the best water-saver for the money (100dllrs) erik


04:23AM | 03/03/06
Member Since: 01/24/06
1449 lifetime posts
BUT I happen to like Crane great quality competitive price and if I cannot get it fast I would use Gerber.

Nylon washer and lamp wick (ball string cotton) behind the washer.

Some folks use Teflon on washer BUT it looks sloppy and doesn't compress as well

Delta was

I also like Symmons,Leonard and Bradley.

For tempering I use Holby strictly.

If the building is ready to replace the shower body now is the time to suggest installing a temperature and temperature balance type.

It is ironic but today I am going to a deposition on a burn case where a building installed a non pressure balance type shower body and some child was scalded with 3rd degree burns and needed skin grafts.

I know by the invoice this shower body was installed well past the code change that required either a temperature or pressure balancing type.

They do not have a snow balls chance in hell to get away from not paying for pain and suffering and criminal negligence.

Personally I think they should look at the new designs Delta has Pressure and temperature type parts readily available and in house personal can make yearly adjustments as required.

HAVE A GREAT week end



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