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marcie10

12:41AM | 04/22/07
Member Since: 04/21/07
3 lifetime posts
Bvplumbing
For about 2 days I have heard ever so slight trickle sound of water in the tank of the toilet. I reminded myself to change the rubber flapper in the tank which I have done once or twice over the years. I replaced it and still heard a slightly louder trickling sound, so I thought the new flapper was bad. Having gone for the third one, I realized it was not the flapper.

I had flushed maybe 3 times to test it. Suddenly I see water on the floor, which I wiped up. But then more, and now it is a lot more requring 6 bath towels. Immediately turned of the water supply to the toilet. Suddenly I glanced in the garden tub while hovering over hubby laboring on the floor and I see nasty looking brown water/sediment or whatever it was in there and then I looked in on the shower floor - the same stuff. Smelly, but not overwhelming. I don't know if this is a sudden or slow leak but this bathroom backs onto the master bedroom and the edges of the carpet on the other side of the wall were wet and it had drained along the wall edge and pooled up at the entrance to the bathroom door under the carpet. We pulled back all the carpet and where it had pooled up there was a nasty looking sludgy brown wet mess on the concrete and on the foam under the carpet. The carpet was soaked. I just can't believe that within that half hour all this stuff happened enough to wet the carpet in the adjoining bedroom. We dried the floor tile in the bathroom immediately it got was wet and left the carpet pulled back sprayed with antifungal,bacterial,mildew stuff until we know what we are facing. It has got to be a slow leak I think and it is either a burst sewer/or water pipe or a backed up one, but nothing has backed up in the toilet to precipitate any of this. Nothing wrong before I went to change the flapper that I knew of. Anybody have a clue? Interesting to see if we get the same diagnosis from the plumbing company. We are calling a master plumber in the morning, this happened at 11:30 at night. I don't know if we should use the other bathroom, kitchen sink washer, etc. until then. I havent a clue how the drains are hooked up. The othe bathroom is on the other side of the house, the laundry room is way down the hall, this is a one story house and was built in 1994. Never had any plumbing problems before. Ironically our relative was the plumbing inspector for our county when this house was built so it had better be right. LOL!

Billhart

05:33AM | 04/22/07
Member Since: 04/25/05
1916 lifetime posts
The sewer is clogged. It might be yours or it might be the cities main. Most likely it is yours.

And when you flush or run any water the sewage is backing up and leaking out the seal under the toilet.

The tub and show are lower than the toilet so it shows up there first.

marcie10

06:41AM | 04/22/07
Member Since: 04/21/07
3 lifetime posts
Thank you for that information. What we don't understand is how it got clogged.I am the only person that uses that bathroom and I am extremely careful about not throwing anything in the toilet. I am a little person and do not put anything down there but toilet paper and whatever should go down there. It has never clogged up.

Now on my husband's bathroom, he does clog it up occasionally and uses a plunger (much to my disgust) and he does not have any leaks, drips, or whatever in his bathroom. Could it be tied in? My bathroom is on one side of the house and his is right over the other side of a 2500 sq. ft. home. Would the plumbing be tied in?

marcie10

07:03AM | 04/22/07
Member Since: 04/21/07
3 lifetime posts
You said "when you flush or run water".

Run what water and where? Do you mean in the bathroom sinks? Kitchen sinks? Washer, dishwasher? I am currently trying to find out from the County before I call the plumber (it is Sunday) if there are any problems in my area. The lift station is at the back of the next door neighbor's yard Thanks, Marcie

Billhart

11:01AM | 04/22/07
Member Since: 04/25/05
1916 lifetime posts
In general all of the drains in a house come together and exit at one point.

Now this does not apply to your house but for older houses that have been added on it is not uncommon to have drains in additions to come separately and to join the mainline in the yard.

And even on a newer home that is "orginal" sometimes mistakes are made during construction and it is easier to join them on the outside.

When I said any more that is what I ment. Kitchen sink, any bathroom, washer, etc.

Even if someone was there without opening cleanout plugs they could really not make a guess of where the problem is.

It could only affect one part of the house or it could be all of it.

The causes could be many. Somethig got flushed down that got caugth. It could have been years ago and stuff is slowing building up on it.

Most likely it is a problem from the orignal construction. Improper backfill poorly made connections. But that is all guess work.

And if you are that close to a lift station it is very possible that there is a problem with that and it has backed up to your house.

It is possible that at sometime a heay truck drove across the sewer line and colapsed it.

Let me tell you about a rental house that a friend of mine has.

It was built in the 40's and the sewer line goes out the back of the house and is close to the surface.

The house is on a corner pieshaped lot and the road in the front is much lower and the there are basement drains that apparently drain to a sewer in that roadway.

But we really don't know and the house might have been on a septic in the backyard when it was built.

I got a call that there was dirty water standing in the tub and water dripping on the copper pipes in the basement.

By the time I got there I saw a stain in the bathtub, but no water. IT took a while to figure out what was happening. There was a clog and after flushing the toilet a number of times the water was backing up and it was leaking around the wax seal and just dripping in the basement and the copper line ran close by that area.

After more testing I found that the trouble was in the yard and that she needed to get sewer company out with a power snake.

The city also has a grant where they have a contractor installing underground feeds to houses. This is after a couple of ice storms where trees took down the drops to the house.

So I told her "BTW, the city contractor was there and trenched in the electric drop. But it goes from the corner of the house to the pole by the corner of the lot. Far away from where the sewer exits the house and it should run straight to the road, but WHO KNOWS."

Turns out that sewer ran to same corner where the pole was and the contractor trenched right through the sewer line.
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