06:29AM | 06/23/07
Member Since: 04/13/07
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I will cut to the short version. House has sold. (maybe) Inspecter found gas leaks by shut off to water heater, fitting by dryer and one coming in from the main, all very small and usual for a 40 year old house. The first two were fixed and ok'ed. The last one is one long piece which travels in walls and such. Rather impossible and expensive to cut, replace, don't really understand all the details. My question is: is there a sealant that can be used on the out side of these elbows and pieces that will seal this small leak?

Just to throw into the mix the main sewer line has an offset pipe and to go from the outside cleanout to the curb (about 40 feet with sidewalk and parkway) and 8-10 feet deep they want $4400.00. Does this seem reasonable? Any information about either of these subjects would be very appreciated. ASAP. Closing is scheduled for 7/6/07.




07:32AM | 06/23/07
Member Since: 01/24/06
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"Inspector found gas leaks by shut off to water heater, fitting by dryer and one coming in from the main, all very small and usual for a 40 year old house"

I never heard or read such crap EVER.

This is a first for me and I am doing gas fitting since 1968

Who ever told you this nonsense does this mean to say that EVERY SINGLE building IN NYC that is 40 years old has gas leaks?

For you information many of the older building in NYC had Gas lighting and gas used for the refrigerators that were installed in the late 1800's and GUESS WHAT the gas lines are still in the buildings and NOT LEAKING

There is no such thing as a "small gas leak" this is like saying someone only has a little Cancer.

When I do encounter a gas leak on piping I disconnect all appliances plug the openings and test the line with 3 PSI air (some codes may vary) and leave the test one for one hr.

One 32 story building I was called for a smell of gas. I shut the 2" riser disconnected 32 counter top stoves and 32 wall ovens found a total of 7 leaks and we decided to replace the entire riser and branch lines.

Gas leaks kill and other then replacing the piping totally I would consider no other option


07:52AM | 06/23/07
Member Since: 01/24/06
1449 lifetime posts
"Just to throw into the mix the main sewer line has an offset pipe and to go from the outside cleanout to the curb (about 40 feet with sidewalk and parkway) and 8-10 feet deep they want $4400.00. Does this seem reasonable?"

So a pipe has an offset how else are plumbers supposed to go around boulders and other obstructions?

Do you honestly think sewers, water mains ,rivers and streams all run straight? I yet to get on a road that runs straight so why should a waste line be different?

If someone is willing to dig up 8-10 feet of earth following OSHA 1910 shoring guidelines and have a license and insurance and are willing to use using a backhoe digging up the pipe installing new pipe using clean fill and back filing and testing for $4,400

I personally would kiss their feet and thank them over and over and then have them install the line and then thank them over over and over

THEN ask do they do gas piping

For $4,400 that is one amazing price EVEN if they used your old gas piping( joking) for the main sewer the digging alone is worth it.


12:38PM | 06/23/07
Member Since: 04/13/07
2 lifetime posts
Thanks for your quick reply. Just to mention, there was never a smell of gas. In the 30 years I have lived in the house. What was said was that it is not unusual for this to happen when the pipe connections age or rust. What the problem is, the pipes coming into the house are very long and with no connectors that can be disconnected, just sealed connections, and to take this apart (1 inch pipe) it would have to be rethreaded (don't know excactly what I am saying) cut, pieced together with 2 elbow and a 2 or 3 inch piece in between, the leak, which is at the bottom of an elbow (I think)leaves no way to separate because the connection piece is also very long and runs through a finnished ceiling. this will be a verrrry expensive fix, and I was hoping there would be another way. I know I am probably not explaining this well, but within 2 weeks of closing to have all this happen has me a little messed up. Well the repair guy is going to a plumbing supply on Monday and will see if they can offer some other solution.

Again, any info would be helpful, but whatever must be done will be done. I just wish it did not have to be done by me.

Thanks, also for the input on the sewer.



01:04PM | 06/23/07
Member Since: 04/25/05
1918 lifetime posts
Have it check into CSST (corregated stainless steel tubing).

That is a flexable product and it can be fished in some cases.

The plumber needs to be certified by the manufacture to buy it (to make up the end connections). But in some places the supply house will make them up to predetermined lenghts.


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