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john711

04:45PM | 07/15/09
Member Since: 07/14/09
1 lifetime posts
Bvplumbing
I have a 50 year old house in New Jersey with well water. All the pipes are copper and are springing atleast one leak a week. The previous owner was a plumber(A bad one)and was in love with sweating. He has pipes running all over that lead no where. There are unions everywhere where he just connected more pipe. Its a nightmare. On top of that there is only 2 foot of work space that i have to share with all these pipes and duct work. There are car jacks holding the house up. Anyway I thought I coild just get rid of all the copper and replace it with pvc but now someone has mentioned cpvc witch I have no idea what it is.Could someone point me in the right diection. And what size line do I need for different items. Such as the tub,kitchen sink,shower and so on. Oh yhea one more thing. The washing machine, bathroom sink and the washer all back up and are getting worse. Not the tub though. Its only a rancher thank God. So if anyone could help even some it would be great. I plan on selling in a year so I want to stay cheap but dont want to live under there either. And mold is starting. Thats enough Thank You John

Sylvan

10:33AM | 07/16/09
Member Since: 01/24/06
1452 lifetime posts
Me_office1
Before you use PVC / CPVC / ABS / PEX or any other product I would very strongly suggest you check the local codes and the toxicity of the plastic you are contemplating on using

Dollie

04:53AM | 07/17/09
Member Since: 07/16/09
3 lifetime posts
Sylvan, I am brand new here on this site and without knowledge, and without water since yesterday as we have the old polybutelene pipes and seen that we are too old to get in class action suit to replace. We are also Senior Citizens without much income, Repair man wants to replace all with PVC. HOW do you test for the toxicity? I am sick of the leaks and repairs, and being taken advantage of because we do not have the knowledge of repairs. Your info would be really appreciated.

PPFAhomeorg

05:19AM | 07/17/09
Member Since: 07/16/09
1 lifetime posts
CPVC and PEX are both in long use, and safe. Both are listed in the National Standard Plumbing Code, which is used in NJ. They are less expensive then copper, and install quicker. PVC and ABS pipes are intended for drain waste and vent piping, not hot and cold pressure applications. Look for the NSF-pw mark on potable water piping products. For more information, look up PPFAhome.org for information on all plastic piping systems.

www.PPFAhome.org

Sylvan

07:59AM | 07/17/09
Member Since: 01/24/06
1452 lifetime posts
Me_office1
http://www.masterplumbers.com/plumbviews/1999/copper.asp

One has to love the "state of the art" plastic failures

In a fire where the toxins are given off by "plastic" the cause of death is normally from the smoke not from burning up

Check out Green peace and type in the various so called "safe" plastics"

Also Charlotte pipe which manufacturers plastic and cast iron will tell you CI is quiet and non toxic the only thing one can say about plastic is no skill is needed to install it and it installs fast but it does not have the proven longevity of cast iron or copper.

Considering I do not own stock in copper or plastic or cast iron I can give an unbiased professional opinion as I am not pushing any product that is known for failures such as the known plastic fiasco failures where the home owners suffered huge losses.

I have only doing plumbing over 41 years and found snake oil sales men can never explain why their products are ok for residential but not for commercial where the codes are more stringent

http://www.builderswebsource.com/techbriefs/cpvccopper.htm
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Dollie

08:13AM | 07/17/09
Member Since: 07/16/09
3 lifetime posts
Just talked to my repairman, He agreed with you on PVC and the CPVC, He has been using the Pex for over 10 years and has had no problems with the homes he has re-done. It has been permitted in Michigan codes, and he also says that it is very sturdy and does not freeze and crack like the PVC does in the winter weather we have here. Your answer to someone else`s question helped me too, Thanks.

Dollie

08:21AM | 07/17/09
Member Since: 07/16/09
3 lifetime posts
Sylvan, I am sure that after "41 years" you would have just "a little" knowledge about this stuff. We are in a double wide Manufactured home, and I will make sure that my repair guy reads this article. I understand that it only takes about 8 minutes for one of these houses to be gone, and have seen several horrible examples through the years. Thank-you so much for your reply, I appreciate your information.

Sylvan

08:35AM | 07/17/09
Member Since: 01/24/06
1452 lifetime posts
Me_office1
Your more then welcome Dollie I was glad to be of help.. Feel free to contact me any time
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