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CassieSue

05:29PM | 02/01/06
Member Since: 01/31/06
6 lifetime posts
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Hiya,

My husband and I bought our first home in August. After the fact we found out that we have asbestos siding. It is in TERRIBLE condition, something we assumed would be fairly easy to fix...until we figured out what it was.

We really want to replace this but everyone says it's gonna be a nightmare!! They warn us about huge fines,permit costs,diposal fees and everything in between!

Our home is about 1500 sq. ft, two story and we live in Michigan...Bay County. I believe it's masonite (cement asbestos?)

Any help with laws and ballpark amounts to dispose would be really appreciated!! We would really like to do it ourselves with help from relatives, but we were told by friends that that wasn't possible. This is frusterating to say the least!!

TIA for any help!

doug seibert

03:36AM | 02/02/06
Member Since: 08/10/02
843 lifetime posts
First determine WHAT you have........

Masonite siding is brown and when damaged tends to rot and deteriorate to a soft "cardboard".........

Asbestos Cement siding is grey/white.....hard tiles prone to cracking.......

What is the "TERRIBLE condition" ?

CassieSue

05:59AM | 02/02/06
Member Since: 01/31/06
6 lifetime posts
Ok, well that shows my ignorance on this subject...It's Asbestos cement siding...it's white and cracks VERY easily!!

There's missing pieces everywhere, along the bottom of the house there is cracked and broke peices and along one WHOLE side on the bottom(it's missing probably 1 foot up from the bottom) there just isnt' any there (you can imagine what that looks like), it's stained TERRIBLY...that will not come off!! It just looks like dirt but after scrubbing it with brushes last summer I'm convinced it will not come clean. The previous owners just didn't take care of it.

We assumed we could just put siding over top of it...but several people told us this wasn't possible. With summer comming up we are exploring options...it's such an eyesore right now!

Billhart

06:33AM | 02/02/06
Member Since: 04/25/05
1918 lifetime posts
Asbestos shingles are concidered on-friable, that is they don't release abestos particals, unless crushed, sanded or other wise disterbuted.

In many areas they can be removed by keeping then damp and "gently" removing then and then disposed of in plastic bags without othewise using an "asbestos remditation specialist" or "moon suits".

But the rules vary by state.

I tried looking at MI and could not find an answer on the web sites.

Try contacting the state department of evironmental protection.

Also not in some state home owners can do that, but if a contractor is used then they need to go the "full route".


doug seibert

06:53AM | 02/02/06
Member Since: 08/10/02
843 lifetime posts
http://www.michigan.gov/deq/0,1607,7-135-3312-96663--,00.html

The "Residential PDF" indicates the homeowner is allowed to remove their own siding but must arrange with the landfill for disposal.......(here in Florida our landfill accepts the bagged asbestos at a premium fee of about $90 per ton)

CassieSue

06:06PM | 02/06/06
Member Since: 01/31/06
6 lifetime posts
Thanks so much for all the great advice, It's been soooooo helpful. This is by far the best home improvement site i've ever seen!! It makes a lot of the tasks a lot less daunting.

Field79

10:24AM | 04/13/09
Member Since: 04/12/09
1 lifetime posts
Does Asbestos siding rot and get soft? I found this forum while searching for issues with me doing my home reno project of upgrading to vinyl siding.

I think I may have masonite siding, according to your description. None of my siding is cracked, but in some spots rotted like wook and it other very spongy. Is that a characteristic of asbestos siding?

Thanks for your help

tomh

06:38PM | 04/29/09
Member Since: 07/01/03
558 lifetime posts
Hi Field79. Wow, its been a long time since I logged into the forum but the questions don't change a lot. Asbestos siding is prone to the same erosion that any concrete can experience. Rot is not something we normally see, but if the cement matrix becomes saturated, it can lose cohesion. Truth is, the material is less prone to producing dust when this condition exists, but it could be considered "friable" when it dries out. Most asbestos cement (transite) deteriorates by flaking, spalding and weathering. I have never actually seen it "rot". Perhaps what you are seeing is a wood or organic matrix product.
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