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derfbu

02:40PM | 12/01/09
Member Since: 11/30/09
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The expensive Edenpure heater that Bob Vila endorses puts out 3500 BTU's per hour of heat (per thousand watts of electric used). That is exactly the same amount of heat in BTU's that a twenty dollar electric heater at K-mart puts out (per thousand watts of electric used). In other words, the same number of watts puts out the same number of BTU's no matter how the heat is produced. A 1500 watt heater puts out 5200 BTU's per hour no matter how the heat is produced-radiant, resistive, IR, or any other method. It is all the same. Take a look at what consumer reports says about this heater.

petekeithly

08:37AM | 10/29/10
Member Since: 10/28/10
4 lifetime posts
I recently watched the Bob Villa endorsed infomercial on these Eden Pure heaters and was really disappointed at how misleading the advertising was. And for a previous poster to refer to these very high priced products as the "Mercedes Benz" of space heaters is simply a gross exageration in my opinion. You can find comparable features, performance and reliability in many electric space heaters that cost a fraction of what the Eden Pure line sells for. While I have not read the Consumer Report article on this product, I would certainly hope that Bob Villa has!

petekeithly

03:49PM | 10/29/10
Member Since: 10/28/10
4 lifetime posts
I am not aware of those statements by MB marketers that you say were made "some years ago". Perhaps that is their marketing strategy, but I doubt it. My point is simply this: If Bob Villa expects the public to respect him as a consumer advocate, he should do a lot more research into the "value" of the products he is endorsing. My opinion of him has dropped dramatically after seeing those infomercials. He is now on my "how much money can I make based on my reputation" list. Right next to Sara Palin. Greed rules!

petekeithly

09:22PM | 10/29/10
Member Since: 10/28/10
4 lifetime posts
I don't think fine wine, artwork and fancy dresses are a fair comparison to electric space heaters. I certainly believe people have a right to sell and purchase items that are expensive and even frivolous. My point is that Bob is using his trusted reputation gained from his excellent "This Old House" series to promote a product that (in my opinion) is arguably overpriced and deceptively advertised.

petekeithly

02:41PM | 10/30/10
Member Since: 10/28/10
4 lifetime posts
I don't expect Bob to be the "taste police", but I do expect him to do his best to be the "value police". Many people without a technical understanding of building products rely on him to judge value in products for the home, such as electric space heaters. He has either not done his homework on this product or he simply can be bought for the right price.

LarryG

08:13AM | 10/31/10
Member Since: 07/22/04
525 lifetime posts
Hi Bob,

Can't decide which to purchase.Which unit do you think would give me more "bang" for my buck?

Thanks,

Larry

LarryG

10:13AM | 10/31/10
Member Since: 07/22/04
525 lifetime posts
That makes sense.

derfbu

04:24PM | 11/01/10
Member Since: 11/30/09
4 lifetime posts
It is astounding what good advertising can do for a product.

There should be a law which states that the manufacturer of a heating device has to reveal how many BTU's of heat are delivered per BTU of energy the product consumes.

There should also be a law that states that the seller of energy has to state how many BTU's of energy you get per dollar of energy purchased.

In the case of the edenpure, you get

1 BTU of heat delivered for every 1 BTU of energy purchased. This is the same as a 20 dollar electric heater purchased at your favorite discount store (but perhaps not as pretty...or as safe).

LarryG

04:12AM | 11/04/10
Member Since: 07/22/04
525 lifetime posts
Take a few minutes and watch these videos.http://www.edenpure.com/videos/

I'm sure you will agree that an Edenpure heater is definitly the way to go.

derfbu

04:34AM | 11/04/10
Member Since: 11/30/09
4 lifetime posts
Sorry. a sophisticated sounding vocabulary does not trump reality. ALL, I repeat ALL, electric heaters are very close to 100% efficiency...that is converting electrical energy to heat energy. This has been known for 100 years. You can run that energy through 20 stages, but you can't increase it. That just ads to the cost. A 20 dollar electric heater is as efficient as any edenpure ever made. The only way to get more energy than what you put in is with a heat pump.
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