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Schlotkins

06:25AM | 12/03/01
Member Since: 08/22/01
16 lifetime posts
Bvelectrical
Hi- I replaced both a switch and an outlet, where the switch controlled the outlet. Now, no matter what, the outlet is on. I was very careful to make sure I wired the outlet and switch exactly the same, but no luck. Do I need a special kind of outlet?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Chris

rpxlpx

07:19AM | 12/03/01
Member Since: 03/13/00
1675 lifetime posts
No, you don't need a special outlet. If you replaced both parts with the same type, then they should behave as before.
The problem could be a defective switch, but more likely, there's been a change in the wiring.
If you can check continuity, shut off the power and then determine which wire on the switch goes to the outlet. That wire should be "alone" on its connector on the side of the switch. The other connector on the switch might have more than one wire on it -but that wire going to the outlet should be by itself (unless the switch operates some other device as well, which is unlikely).

electricmanscott

11:35AM | 12/03/01
Member Since: 11/05/01
98 lifetime posts
Are there 2 hot wires going to the outlet? If so one is constant and one switched. You must remove the small tab between the two brass screw terminals. Dont remove the tab between the silver colored screws. Use a pair of needlenose pliers to break it off and you should be all set.

Schlotkins

06:42PM | 12/03/01
Member Since: 08/22/01
16 lifetime posts
I think you may have it. I just checked one of the old outlets and the metal tab IS broken off. I'll give that a try in the morning. (need some sunlight.. :>)

THANKS!

Schlotkins

07:40AM | 12/04/01
Member Since: 08/22/01
16 lifetime posts
OK, I'm an idiot. Let me describe the situation:

there's a total of 5 wires going to the outlet. With the ground hole on the bottom, I have one white/ivory wire on each screw on the left. On right, I have 2 black wires on the top and one red wire on the bottom. I'm assuming the red wire is from the switch, as all the other outlets don't have this.

I removed the metal tab from the RIGHT side of the outlet and it didn't seem to work. Do I need to remove the tab from both sides?

Thanks for the help. As you can see, I'm an electric moron.

rpxlpx

05:00AM | 12/05/01
Member Since: 03/13/00
1675 lifetime posts
Instead of "assuming" the red wire is from the switch, look at the switch and see.
IMPORTANT: as electricmanscott said, you should break off the brass tab, not the silver tab - the "right" or "left" isn't the issue. The brass tab is for the hot side of the outlet (red or black wires on brass connectors), and it's one of those wires that comes from the switch. The silver tab is for neutral and the silver connectors should have white wire(s) only attached.

[This message has been edited by rpxlpx (edited December 06, 2001).]

Schlotkins

04:31PM | 12/30/01
Member Since: 08/22/01
16 lifetime posts
It was the little tab... I'm all set.

Thanks for all the suggestions and help!


electricmanscott

09:39AM | 12/31/01
Member Since: 11/05/01
98 lifetime posts
The tab will get em everytime!
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