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danieloneil01

08:54AM | 08/09/06
Member Since: 08/08/06
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I have a 42" Plasma that I had to add a new outlet but I couldn't run it from an existing outlet(didn't want to mess with the drywall) so I went in to attic and spliced it into wires that later found out went to the ceiling fan.. Now when my TV is on and the lights are on for the fan they flicker like it's not getting enough juice.. I would like to know if it's difficult or the best solution to run new wire to a new breaker?

The other one I need is for my Cable box and DVD player which is in a closet.. I have an outlet installed but no connected right now.. All I have is an electrical cord going to the components through the ceiling to an outlet in the attic.. If I were to run the TV to a new breaker could I just splice them together and run them off the new breaker?

I'm a noob to electrical so any help would be great.. Do you recommend any books on this subject that I could get at Home Depot or Lowes?

Thanks...

Billhart

10:37AM | 08/09/06
Member Since: 04/25/05
1915 lifetime posts
The lights are not flickering due to "not getting enough juice".

You either have a bad connection in the splice or not correctly connected, such as to a source with a dimmer.

Either could potentially cause a fire.

And you don't just splice into wires. You need to use a box and approved fittings.

Here are several good books. Black and Decker "Completely Home Wiring" and Rex Cauldwelds "Wiring a Home".

I have also heard that Ortho's book is good, but I have not seen it. These books should be available at HD, Lowes, Borders Books and the like.

Probaly your best bet (electrically) run a new circuit for the TV and related equipment from the panel.

But depending on the construction details of your house that can vary from simple to very complicated.

But first get one or two of those books and then check the work that you have already done and fix as needed.


danieloneil01

01:26PM | 08/09/06
Member Since: 08/08/06
5 lifetime posts
Well that's not good to hear.. I guess if it's affecting my fan then it could be affecting my TV.. Since the flickering started I've not used the fan at the sametime as the TV.. But when I use the fan when the TV is off the lights are fine (no flickering).. Guess I will try to fix the connection with the box in place and see if that will fix the problem.. But this weekend I will be taking under the big job of adding a new breaker..

I bought a book from Home Depot called, "Wiring 1-2-3"..

My final question to you is what size of wire should I use for the 2 A/V components and 42" Plasma and size of breaker? Right now I have NM-B 12-2 Gauge (should I replace with 10 gauge to be safe?)

Heres my splice job, :)

http://quick.imgfree.net/75494

Thanks again for your help..

Billhart

01:59PM | 08/09/06
Member Since: 04/25/05
1915 lifetime posts
After looking at you picture you need to lots of reading about the proper way to do wiring.

Those connections need to be in an electrical box. Some boxes need fittings where the wire comes through. Other you add fittings (called NM or ROmex connectors).

You might need to add two boxes or possible run new cable from the one box to the fan.

And you need to fasten the sheathed electrical cable near the boxes. And you want the wires to extend 6" outside the box (before making the connections and puting it all inside.

A 20 amp circuit is the maximum that you can run for something like this. And #12 wire is plently unless you have a very long run.

Before opening the circuit breaker panel turn off the main breaker first. That will make most of the parts of the panel dead, but where the big cables come into the panel (usually at the top) will still be hot.

Look everything over CAREFULY before doing anything. And plan how you are going to make the connects and run the wires before doing any.

Any place that you a doubt, then DON'T DO IT.


danieloneil01

02:19PM | 08/09/06
Member Since: 08/08/06
5 lifetime posts
I'll run new wire from the box to the fan... I knew my splicing job was bad but not that bad for a virgin :) These sheathed electrical cable connectors you mention, are these the caps I used on the wires to turn them together? Didn't think installing a Plasma was going to be this hard.. lol

I don't plan on forgeting about shutting the power off.. It has it in bold letters in the book.. I plan on having rubber gloves when opening up the Breaker Box and working around it..

danieloneil01

03:11PM | 08/09/06
Member Since: 08/08/06
5 lifetime posts
I was reading the book and found out what the sheathed electrical cable connectors are.. They're what hold the wires into the box, outlet and breaker box.. I don't know how I can staple the wire 8" above it unless I cut into the drywall above the tv...

Billhart

03:53PM | 08/09/06
Member Since: 04/25/05
1915 lifetime posts
There is an except that you don't need to attach sheathed electrical cable for cases where you fish wires into existing walls.


danieloneil01

04:10PM | 08/09/06
Member Since: 08/08/06
5 lifetime posts
well I fished the wires in a wall (where my tv is located) and there's no drywall. Heres a pic http://www.salterbomb.com/forum/uploads/post-167-1150821521_thumb.jpg

But I'm sure I will need them for the breaker box though..
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