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newbyve

05:45PM | 05/29/07
Member Since: 05/28/07
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I recently bought a home where the previous owner had the X10 system and left the X10 light switches but took everything else with him. The house is about 100 years old and when we tried to replace the exterior light fixture we found some rough looking old wiring. We replaced the wire that went to the light fixture before and are trying to replace the X10 switch with a "normal" switch. The electrical box contains 3 switches - only 1 X10 (the one we are replacing). The X10 switch that was in there is model # WS477 and says it is a 3-way switch, but we can't find what is the 2nd switch to turn the light on and off? My question is, what sort of switch do i need to put in the X10's place and what wires go to what - right now i have 1 red wire running into the spot (from the source i would guess) and the black, white and neutral wires running to the light fixture. Any help would be much appreciated!!!!

Billhart

07:31PM | 05/29/07
Member Since: 04/25/05
1915 lifetime posts
ftp://ftp.x10.com/pub/instructions/4-way-wiring.pdf

This shows how it is suppose to be installed.

" right now i have 1 red wire running into the spot (from the source i would guess) "

What is the "the spot"?

What all cables are in the box and what connects to the what wires on the WS477? And for any wires that connect to the WS477 what other wires are in that cable and what do the other wires connect to?

and what cables and wires are in the light box and what connects to what?

newbyve

05:47AM | 05/30/07
Member Since: 05/28/07
6 lifetime posts
Sorry - "the spot" is the place in the electircal box where the switch belongs.

I'm not sure what you are asking with the rest of your questions, but when the X10 switch was in the wall the red source wire was connected to the blue X10 wire, the red X10 wire was not used and the blue wire was connected to wire going to the fixture, but now that we put new wiring in to the fixture we have 2 wires going to it rather than just one.

newbyve

05:50AM | 05/30/07
Member Since: 05/28/07
6 lifetime posts
I had looked at the X10 pdf you sent before but it talks about having the companion switch somewhere else in the house, we have yet to find that switch and we have been in the house for a year now. Also, i am not loking to install another X10 switch, i would like to replace the X10 with a regular light switch.

Billhart

06:42AM | 05/30/07
Member Since: 04/25/05
1915 lifetime posts
"but when the X10 switch was in the wall the red source wire was connected to the blue X10 wire, the red X10 wire was not used and the blue wire was connected to wire going to the fixture,"

If the x-10 was only connected to two wires get a regular switch and connect to the two wires where the X-10 was connected.

"but now that we put new wiring in to the fixture we have 2 wires going to it rather than just one."

I don't understand what the 2 wires are for or how it affects this switche.

newbyve

12:38PM | 05/30/07
Member Since: 05/28/07
6 lifetime posts
Sorry, i'm not explaining myself well - the wiring going from the fixture to the light switch has a white wire, a black wire and the ground wire. Before we replaced that wire i believe there was only 1 wire going from the switch to the fixture becuase only 2 wires from the X10 switch were being utalized - one to the source red wire and one going to the fixture.

TimBonham

02:47PM | 05/30/07
Member Since: 01/09/07
197 lifetime posts
"but when the X10 switch was in the wall the red source wire was connected to the blue X10 wire, the red X10 wire was not used"

So this means the previous owner was using this 3-way X10 switch as just a standard 2-way switch. (Probably they just happened to have a 3-way switch left over, and used what they had on hand.)

So, like BillHart says, you can replace this with a standard light switch. Connect the wires as they were to the X10 switch, going to the light.

Billhart

06:50PM | 05/30/07
Member Since: 04/25/05
1915 lifetime posts
The white wire to the light is the neutral and does not connect to the switch. It connects to the neutral from the power source.

This is the wiring for a basic switch controling a light.

http://www.selfhelpandmore.com/switchoutlet/basiclightswitch/basiiclightswitchsw.htm

newbyve

05:59PM | 05/31/07
Member Since: 05/28/07
6 lifetime posts
tht makes perfect sense but i have yet to find any neutral wire from the power source? I'll keep looking, the box is full of wires and it may just be hidden in all of them. Thanks so much for your help everyone, i knew this should be simple a simple switch out of a switch but the 3-way switch threw us!!

newbyve

06:01PM | 05/31/07
Member Since: 05/28/07
6 lifetime posts
I found the neutral wire - the previous owner didn't have it connected to anything and it's just "capped off" with electrical tape. Thanks again for everything!
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