09:47AM | 02/04/09
Member Since: 02/03/09
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My electrician sold me on installing 12 3" low voltage light fixtures (w/gimbel ring type)into a new 11 ft. high drywall kitchen ceiling. Sounded and looked great, except I was unaware as to how difficult it is to re-lamp these, requiring a high ladder and not too safe. (After the fact, he later told me just give him a service call - a self-made lifetime job).

These 50 w lamps seem not to last longer than 6 months without extensively being on and have had to replace 3 so far.

What is the best way to swap out these 3" low voltage fixtures and replace them with standard high hats or flood downlights that can be re-lamped with an extension pole.

Does the low voltage can and box assembly have to be removed from above the drywall ceiling (causing damage) or can a high hat be retrofitted into the low voltage can, or by some other method?

Thank you.


10:12AM | 02/04/09
Member Since: 11/18/98
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Do you have access to the box from the attic?

Do you have access to the wiring?

the electrical box?

Have you tried other brands of bulbs?

or different wattages?


10:48AM | 02/04/09
Member Since: 02/03/09
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There is no attic above the kitchen- the boxes are fastened to the roof joists of the cathedral-type ceiling of this 1-story kitchen.

The only access to the fixture wiring is the wire for the lamp emerging from the can. There is no access to the box component of the fixture as it is above the drywall ceiling.

I have only tried replacement 50w bulbs but have yet to see how long they will ultimately last.

The main problem I would like to overcome is avoiding having to get on an 8'high ladder to change the lamps. Standard floods (like high hats)can be changed with an extension pole from below. Thanks for your help and suggestions.


07:51PM | 02/04/09
Member Since: 04/25/05
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I have never done this. So I don't know how hard it is.

But the connections and the transformer are suppose to be accesable.

And you are suppose to be able to do that by disassembling the fixture through the bottom.

Then you could rip out the old support brackets and replace the unit with an OLD work can light.


11:19AM | 02/06/09
Member Since: 02/03/09
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Thanks. I discussed this with an electrical suppplier who was unaware of any retrofit device.

I have to determine whether the cans can be removed pushed up and flipped to access the feeds to the tops of each.


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