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pntr

04:44AM | 10/24/01
Member Since: 10/23/01
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i am painting my living room this weekend. I have finally decided on the colors of the walls and the trim. The walls i am going to use the color of a RL suede paint, Palomino.going to have it mixed in a flat paint. The trim i am going to use the tea-stained aging process by RL. will use the glaze over a devonshire color. My question is this....

The walls are flat palomino.
The trim is devonshire with teastained glaze.
The ceiling is ?

Should i paint the ceiling the devonshire color without the glaze.

well hope someone can understand my problem and help with a ceiling color choice.

thanks in advance.

Jay J

06:46AM | 10/24/01
Member Since: 10/26/00
782 lifetime posts
Hi pntr,

Let me start by saying that I have NO IDEA what palomino and devonshire with tea-stained glaze looks like. If you said Fire Engine Red and Midnight Blue, I'd be able to help. With that I really can't help you with deciding what color you want to make the ceiling. Have you asked the folks at Home Depot (which is where I presume you bought the paint???) Talk to someone in the Paint Department or in the Interior Decorating Department. At worst, contact RL for some help (whose info should be on the can of paint ...)

As an aside, I just want to let you know that FLAT paint is really meant for imperfect/uneven surfaces where you don't want any light to reflect the 'character' of this type of wall. Also, since there is no gloss in FLAT paint, marks and stains and such have a HIGH probability of 'penetrating' the suface.

Semi-Gloss paints, on the other hand, are meant for flat/even surfaces because they DO reflect the character of the wall (which is OK because, ... well, the wall has no irregularities in this example.) PLUS, because of the gloss, there's a 'shield' (of sorts) that's formed when the paint hardens that makes it pretty easy to clean. Since the dirt/stain is more apt to stay on TOP of the gloss, it's not absorbed into the underlying paint (which would make it harder to clean as is with FLAT paint.) Semi-gloss paint is recommended in rooms like kitchens, play rooms, bedrooms, and hallways, especially when children are around. (Clean up is MUCH easier w/semi-gloss!)

Stick around - Others may be able to help. Again, at worst, ctc RL. My best to ya and hope this helps.

Jay J -Moderator

PS: God Bless America!

1stHome

12:10PM | 10/24/01
Member Since: 07/18/01
13 lifetime posts
I definitely agree with the suggestion of using a semi-gloss instead of a flat. When we painted every room in our house we did all of them with a semi-gloss except for our bedroom. We have no children or pets. We are sorry that we used flat paint in our bedroom. It is very dull and you have to deal with marks and dirt, even with adults. Next summer we are going to re-paint that room with the same shade only in a semi-gloss. Usually at the Home Depot they have color guides, they may not be RL but you can look at a competitors, they have suggestions of colors grouped together. Good luck!

P.S. Don’t worry Jay J, I am female and I also have no idea what those colors are!

Matches

03:11PM | 10/24/01
Member Since: 09/01/00
312 lifetime posts
Hi pntr,
I too have no idea what these colors are,however,I have this thing about ceilings...they HAVE to be white!

pntr

04:27PM | 10/24/01
Member Since: 10/23/01
4 lifetime posts
well the palomino is like a nutmeg color. the devonshire is like an antique white or navajo white. the teastained glaze gives a subtle aging look to the devonshire color. they are all RL colors. all the sites i see about the faux painting is about the walls. well what if i did the trim, with the teastained glaze? will it look alright?

Jay J

05:46PM | 10/24/01
Member Since: 10/26/00
782 lifetime posts
Hi pntr,

I know that I'm not much help but I thought I should reply so you're not left hanging.

I still can't really picture the colors even with your descriptions. I think it's best to find someone that's color-coordinated and can assist you. If you have any artist friends, try them. Again, call the folks at RL. I believe their phone # is on the can.

I know I and others mentioned about semi-gloss vs. flat paint. I think you're gonna find that the flat paint is going to go on very lousy. Not just because it's a flat paint but because it's RL paint. We've gotten a LOT of 'complaints' about RL paints. Just be sure you prime with 2 coats and that you use the RECOMMENDED rollers and brushes suggested by the MFGR. Multiple coats of finish paint don't count as being a Primer.

Sorry, pntr. I know I'm no help. In a special way, I'm only trying to help. My best to ya and hope this helps.

Jay J -Moderator

PS: I hope you have better luck than others. If you get a chance, post back and let us know what it was like to paint w/RL paint. We could use a success story, and yours sounds like one that would make a good one. We'd like to know what you ended up doing to get your job to look 'nice' ...

PPS: I hear ya 1stHome! Now I'm not feeling so bad ...

PPPS: God Bless America!

pntr

05:54PM | 10/24/01
Member Since: 10/23/01
4 lifetime posts
well i wasn't going to use the RL paints. was just going to use their colors and have them mixed into another brand. has anyone tried that?

BobF

03:34AM | 10/25/01
Member Since: 10/19/98
223 lifetime posts
1: Instead of semi-gloss use a satin (aka eggshell) on the walls. It has a sheen between semi-gloss and flat. It stays clean in most rooms, the exception being halls, kitchens, and baths. In kitchens and baths a semi-gloss is better to clean up grease and reduce/prevent mildew.

2: For trim, use a satin or semi-gloss latex enamel. The enamel is harder and will stand rougher treatment.

3: Most people prefer WHITE for ceilings because white ceilings make the room look larger. Dark colors will 'shrink' the room. So if you have 10-foot ceilings do what you want but if you have 8-foot ceilings use a white paint. And use a FLAT ceiling paint. Ceilings usually don't get dirty. But they do have imperfections and flat paints do an excellent job of hiding imperfections.

4: As for brands - get the paint from a paint store. Avoid the big boxes and discount stores. You get what you pay for in paints. As for the glaze - I used McClosky (sp?) in a half bath and really liked it. Its expensive ($20-25 for a quart) but worth it.

5: Use quality brushes and rollers. The expensive tools are easier to use and do a better job. They hold more paint and allow the paint to flow to the surface better than cheap tools. IF you use latex (acrylic) then use synthetic brushes. If you use oils, then use china bristle brushes. The paint store can help you.

6: One last word of advice. Get a good extension handle for your roller. Your body will appreciate it.

Matches

03:38AM | 10/25/01
Member Since: 09/01/00
312 lifetime posts
Hello again,
A good retail paint store will match the formula, or can read the color off of a sample and match it precisely.You may be able to get more of your questions answered there as well since they can see exactly what colors you're working with.

Jay J

04:41AM | 10/25/01
Member Since: 10/26/00
782 lifetime posts
Hi pntr,

Well, BobF and Matches have said it better than I could. Look in the YELLOW PAGES under PAINT - RETAIL for a local paint retailer near you. In my area, Finneran and Haley are a great source for paint. Sherwin-Williams is pretty good too. Bob's advice about staying away from the BIG Box Stores is true. And my 5 year old daughter is a stockholder of Home Depot stock. It's just their paint dept. that 'bothers' me a bit. You will get what you pay for. ALL too often I see/read/hear of folks that have to repaint after 5 years or even less. Well, I'm not sure what they expected from paint that cost $7.99 a gallon! And yes, get GOOD, QUALITY supplies. You will see a fairly high bill but remember: You get what you pay for.

My best to ya and hope this helps.

Jay J -Moderator

PS: God Bless America!

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