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sgtpeeper

11:40AM | 06/09/03
Member Since: 06/02/03
14 lifetime posts
Bvbrush
I've heard a lot about this stuff on here, and that it's better than the 123 product. One thing I haven't found out though is whether or not it is compatible with non-Glidden products, like 123 is. I sure would like a general use primer, so I don't have to worry about mixing different manufacturer's primers and paints. It's a pain, and I worry too much. :-)

retisin

12:43PM | 06/09/03
Member Since: 05/19/03
457 lifetime posts
For the most part any good latex primer is good to go with any latex paint.If you need a primer that is useful for both interior and exterior get a zinser or bullseye primer they make it for both interior and exterior use out of the same can.It is a useful primer fom most applications around the home for a do it your selfer.
They make this in both oil,and latex,I don't know the name off hand for I don't use it to often but it can be both int/ext primer make sure you get the dual formula one though other wise you will be buying a can of each.
This can be picked up at all hardware stores,home depots,******* ,***** ,ace,fleet farm,sherwin williams,******* ,hirshfields.
people think you need a different primer for different things,but this isn't true if you are touching up and puttzing around this will work for all applications.
If you plan on priming your whole house get a different primer made for just that otherwise you should be set.

MrPaint

02:55PM | 06/09/03
Member Since: 02/03/03
196 lifetime posts
sgt - Gripper is the best all around latex primer available - in my opinion anyway - and in many others. It has a patented technology that makes it stick and seal exceptionally well. I have used it for many years - on nearly everything - it works great.

I don't see why it wouldn't be compatible with other company's topcoat paints - my question would be why not try some ICI/Glidden product to go over it??

Evermore, Dulux, Ralph Lauren, Ultra-Hide, Spred, Devoe Paint, Fuller O'Brien - all great ICI products - available nearly anywhere - and look and work great over Gripper!

Mr. Paint

sgtpeeper

04:48PM | 06/09/03
Member Since: 06/02/03
14 lifetime posts
Thanks a lot for the replies. Mr Paint, I haven't used any Glidden paints, and I just kind of stick with what has worked for me in the past. I'm certainly willing to try them. Also, I've looked at the Consumer Reports paint tests and I'm thinking of trying American Tradition on my dining room based on their findings. I've actually tried the exterior product on my siding recently, and I love it. It goes on like butter and looks gorgeous.

Thanks

MrPaint

05:16PM | 06/09/03
Member Since: 02/03/03
196 lifetime posts
sgt - Glidden Evermore did slightly better with an independant testing company than American Tradition (which is a good can of paint) - Evermore is $2-3 cheaper than American Tradition.

Good luck with whatever you use... :>)

Mr. Paint

5slb6

04:43PM | 06/10/03
Member Since: 07/28/02
1356 lifetime posts
The advantage of useing a Zinsser primer is they have tested their products to go under just about every major paint brand on the market. So you have much less chance of a compatabilty problem as may happen when you use say a Glidden primer under a Duron topcoat. Also if you have a problem both companies are going to say it is the fault of the other and it has been my experience that Zinsser stands behind their products.

MrPaint

03:24PM | 06/11/03
Member Since: 02/03/03
196 lifetime posts
5........good logic for using the same brand topcoat ( though I do love B-I-N - it is a great product)

All the major finish coat manufacturers make great primers.

Mr. Paint

kcufxorex

05:27AM | 04/19/10
Member Since: 04/18/10
1 lifetime posts
I needed to paint a laminate vanity - very slippery stuff from the 1960's. I tried Gripper on 1 door following the instructions - cleaned, lightly sanded, brushed on, waited a few days, finish coated with spray paint. It did not stick - lightly running my fingernail on the surface would scratch the paint completely off to the original surface. So I tried a spray can Zinser BIN Shellac Base Primer Sealer on the other door using same process and it worked great. My conclusion is there is no comparison between Gripper and BIN Shellac Base for this application. BIN works, Gripper does not. Plus BIN dries in an hour. BIN spray is very prone to runs so spray very lightly as per the instructions. I'm sure Gripper is OK for some purposes but not for laminate. I have no experience using the water based version of BIN. Likely it is similar to Gripper.

5slb6

04:57PM | 04/21/10
Member Since: 07/28/02
1356 lifetime posts
The BIN primer is great and does cure faster than primers. The acrylic primers take longer to cure and take up to 7 days to fully adhear to the surface. I did not know that BIN (shellac) comes in a acrylic/waterbased version.
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