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salew1ca

05:45PM | 07/23/05
Member Since: 07/22/05
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our condominum building, located in southern california, near the ocean is badly in need of resurfacing.

the stucco is in decent shape but there are many cracks to be repaired, in some areas down to the base coat. there is also some leaking that is occurring.

the contractors we have consulted have provided inconsistent advice.

some say that texcote is the only way to go.

others say elastomeric paint is the best option.

can someone explain the difference and the pros and cons of each ?

thanks.

5slb6

04:32AM | 07/30/05
Member Since: 07/28/02
1356 lifetime posts
The texcote product is an elastomeric product just under a different name.

You need to go to a paint store in your area and have a rep from that company come out and spec out this job and you don't want to rely on just anyone to do this on this type of job. An elastomeric coating sounds like what you need on this project.

paintingparkcity

04:44AM | 09/30/05
Member Since: 09/29/05
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I would like to offer suggestions.

First, a painting store does not carry industrial coating systems. They carry paint which will never last more than eight years. most cases you will begin to deal with massive failure on the surface of stucco within two to four years. When this happens, you will be faced with more costs to try to remover the old paint than it cost to apply it in the first place. NEVER PAINT STUCCO! You have no idea of the damage to the look of your units and the cost of restoring the walls down the road.

Second, an elastomeric is the right direction, However, the name brand that you are asking about is sold by a distributor who sells one thing, and one thing only. Of course it is the solution for all your problems (it's all he has). With this company, as well as all others, you need to do a little background search. Right on this site, you will find a forum which allows people to comment on certain products or techniques. If you type in that company name and/or "liquid siding" or "liquid vinyl" you will be faced with some rather negetive advice as to the product you are asking about. Maybe thousands of complaints overall. You need to get away from the hype of "one solution" and check out all of the players. Watch for negetive press, but also watch for no press at all. Often, the low class players in the elastomeric industry are prone to change names, even three times in five years, and corp. identity for their protection. There is a lot of history in this industry, you need to get around the "also ran" players and get to the meat of the industry. If you do, you will end up with a Canadian product, as they invented the stuff. A few exist. As Peter Drucker says, "any newer technology brings with it a rush of "also rans" and then 25 years down the road, most are gone. This will be the case for elastomerics in the U.S. Unfortunatly, all the half wits will destroy this industry if people such as yourself don't remain vigilant. What happens is the "also ran" will decide he can create his own product and/or goes to the paint industry for his formulation. The U.S. paint industry will not formulate a long lasting coating system, even if they knew how to. Watch what you look at! Don't buy a suspect product! Follow science and require tested and MPI listed elastomeric coating systems with an acrylic base. Don't fall for a high stretch product ("it has a high stretch rate and stretches 600%)they don't allow natural vapor transmission!!!

Finally, as I stated, and elastomeric is the solution, but it needs to be able to transfer water vapor through it's rather durable skin. If not, it will bubble under hydrolic forces. Also, I said it would be Canadian because there are only two products like this which are tested and listed for government work etc. one has been around since 1960 and one since 1973, both have good track records, but the newer one has a direct sales force like the product you inquired about and would be 30% more expensive to cover commissions etc.

Lastly, expect to pay 3 times and more than paint. It will last many more times longer than paint so it will pay for itself over time, but don't paint. Either re-plaster or go with a quality elastomeric. Any questions please call 435-640-0283 and I'll give you the entire scoop

Mark

Mark Hedden

435-640-0283

londonlady55

03:51PM | 10/25/06
Member Since: 10/24/06
1 lifetime posts
You appear to be well versed on the subject. I am secretary/treasurer of a condominium on Vancouver Island by the ocean. We are considering elastomeric paint for our building. I want to make sure we have the right specifications. Have you any ideas about this? thanks a lot.
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