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mbeauch

03:55PM | 04/29/00
Member Since: 04/28/00
1 lifetime posts
Bvflooring
I am tiling my bathroom floor.. I have taken it down to the bare concrete and have removed as much of the previous glue as possible... I am trying the layout and dont know if I put the toilet back on before I tile and then grout around it or do I set the toilet right on the tiles?? if i do the second then do I simply caulk from the tile to the floor??? the tiles are not perfectly flat they have a stone finish... plz help

4-K Carpenters

08:07PM | 05/16/00
Member Since: 05/15/00
21 lifetime posts
You should definately put the floor down first and then the toilet, but the problem you are going to possible have is that your toilet may not sit level. You can actually shim a toilet, but this is not recommended. I recommend getting a different tile that is better suited for bathrooms. You could cut the tile around the toilet, but this will make your toilet look as if it were buried in the tile. If you do decide to go with this option, please get a very experienced installer so that your cuts are done correctly.

Mike U

07:05PM | 05/25/00
Member Since: 05/22/00
22 lifetime posts
If you set a tiolet on a rough surfaced tile, set it in a bed of the same grout you used for the tile. This will help you level the toilet and it also leaves you with a super finish. Keep the grout stiff and don't be stingy. Let it start to set up before cutting it back to the edge of the toilet. Use a damp sponge to finish the job.
Mike.

tigerstripe

09:32AM | 04/04/01
Member Since: 04/03/01
40 lifetime posts
I advise against using the grout to even out the toilet on the floor... when the grout dries and over time, the motion of sitting on the toilet, the grout chips away. If the toilet becomes loose in this way, you risk getting air in the wax ring seal at the drain. The grout is not sturdy enough to properly support the toilet's edge rim. I recommend the first sudggestion, using a smooth tile, at least around the toilet area. can you find a smooth tile, same color, made by the same manufacturer as your "stone-finish" tile? The two will blend nicely and no worries about a wobbly toilet.

tigerstripe

09:32AM | 04/04/01
Member Since: 04/03/01
40 lifetime posts
I advise against using the grout to even out the toilet on the floor... when the grout dries and over time, the motion of sitting on the toilet, the grout chips away. If the toilet becomes loose in this way, you risk getting air in the wax ring seal at the drain. The grout is not sturdy enough to properly support the toilet's edge rim. I recommend the first sudggestion, using a smooth tile, at least around the toilet area. can you find a smooth tile, same color, made by the same manufacturer as your "stone-finish" tile? The two will blend nicely and no worries about a wobbly toilet.

tigerstripe

09:32AM | 04/04/01
Member Since: 04/03/01
40 lifetime posts
I advise against using the grout to even out the toilet on the floor... when the grout dries and over time, the motion of sitting on the toilet, the grout chips away. If the toilet becomes loose in this way, you risk getting air in the wax ring seal at the drain. The grout is not sturdy enough to properly support the toilet's edge rim. I recommend the first sudggestion, using a smooth tile, at least around the toilet area. can you find a smooth tile, same color, made by the same manufacturer as your "stone-finish" tile? The two will blend nicely and no worries about a wobbly toilet.

tigerstripe

09:33AM | 04/04/01
Member Since: 04/03/01
40 lifetime posts
I advise against using the grout to even out the toilet on the floor... when the grout dries and over time, the motion of sitting on the toilet, the grout chips away. If the toilet becomes loose in this way, you risk getting air in the wax ring seal at the drain. The grout is not sturdy enough to properly support the toilet's edge rim. I recommend the first sudggestion, using a smooth tile, at least around the toilet area. can you find a smooth tile, same color, made by the same manufacturer as your "stone-finish" tile? The two will blend nicely and no worries about a wobbily toilet.

tigerstripe

09:33AM | 04/04/01
Member Since: 04/03/01
40 lifetime posts
I advise against using the grout to even out the toilet on the floor... when the grout dries and over time, the motion of sitting on the toilet, the grout chips away. If the toilet becomes loose in this way, you risk getting air in the wax ring seal at the drain. The grout is not sturdy enough to properly support the toilet's edge rim. I recommend the first sudggestion, using a smooth tile, at least around the toilet area. can you find a smooth tile, same color, made by the same manufacturer as your "stone-finish" tile? The two will blend nicely and no worries about a wobbily toilet.

NickG

04:13PM | 04/04/01
Member Since: 02/13/01
27 lifetime posts
Yes you should set the floor tile first and then the toilet on top.

As for the stone tiles, it's not a big problem just try to select tiles that will match as much as possible in height to one another and to be on the safe side I would put a second wax ring for the toilet install. As for shimming I don't think there is anything wrong with that as long as there isn't a huge gap. Applying some silicone wouldn't be bad either.

Nick

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