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msilva

07:38AM | 10/23/02
Member Since: 10/22/02
6 lifetime posts
Bvflooring
I purchased and installed a Uniclic floor but am having problems with moisture getting into the joints.
I am now having a dialogue with the sales rep who claimed that the floor should hold water for 5 days without damage and the factory which maintains that spills need to be immediately wiped up. I places a softsided cooler which sweated on the floor overnight and swelled the joints. I have noticed that the tight original joints are now swelling slightly. I will have to remove and reinstall the floor but am afraid of the same thing happening again.
Is there any treatment I can put on the joints to provide a better seal? I know of a glue joit Pergo floor that still looks good after 10 years.
I wanted a reliable tough floor and ended up with a lemon. I would not recommend this floor to anyone. I wonder if anyone has had experience with this?

ACD

10:53AM | 10/23/02
Member Since: 10/15/02
359 lifetime posts
I have heard bad things about pergo not backing up their warranty due to moisture damage, but nothing with Uniclik. Personally I wouldnt use a flooring material made out of material that swells when it gets damp like particle board or MDF for just the reason you are taling about.

msilva

09:02AM | 11/11/02
Member Since: 10/22/02
6 lifetime posts
I will have to reinstall the floor with a replacement product from the manufacturer. I am not happy about that but this is the best they can do, so they say.
I want to know if there is anything I can coat the edges with (short of gluing them) to prevent re-entry of water in the future.

rpxlpx

05:10AM | 11/12/02
Member Since: 03/13/00
1675 lifetime posts
I don't have any experience with this, but logically it seems as if a coating of wax in the seams might be helpful. It's worth a try if nobody has a better idea.

[This message has been edited by rpxlpx (edited November 12, 2002).]

willies all thumbs

11:31AM | 11/15/02
Member Since: 10/03/02
55 lifetime posts
we just had Mannington snaplock laminate demonstrated, we soaked some scrap overnight with no ill effects, even though the back looks like ordinary hardboard, like siding, get your mony back and switch brands. the recommended glue in high risk areas like sink front, under frig.

msilva

01:13PM | 11/15/02
Member Since: 10/22/02
6 lifetime posts
Thank you for the advice. Good luck with the Mannington floor.
Unfortunately, Uniclic will not refund me my money and are sticking to the fine print on the warranty and that is to replace the material only.
It's good to hear that other manufacturers are making a good product. I would love to hear from others who tested their floor and found it performed well. I would also like to hear from those who have had problems with Uniclic. Uniclic which is also called Quick Step claims to have the best product on the market and the best warranty.
I will have to rent a truck and go to the supplier to pick up the replacement floor. Remove my existing floor, discard it and spend three weekends reinstalling it. My labor and inconvenience means nothing to them, despite the fact that I am in the design business and in a position to recommend different types of flooring. This company will obviously never get any recommendations from me.

bozmangal

04:51AM | 12/31/02
Member Since: 12/29/02
3 lifetime posts
we purchased a uniclic floor about 6 months ago, and that was my biggest concern since on the packaging it does mention the warping issue.

We went to the home improvement store and they suggested using a sealant from one of the other manufacturers to place on the end of the boards to prevent such things. We put the flooring in a room that is seldom used, therefore is not as succeptible to spills and the like...but, we do want to use the same product in another room...and I think, that this time, we will be using the same product, however, glueing the seams and ends to help prevent a situation like yours.

Although I personally prefer wood floors, we are first time home owners on a budget, and this floor has done so far, so good...so, long story short, use sealant...good luck.

msilva

02:07AM | 01/02/03
Member Since: 10/22/02
6 lifetime posts
Bozmangal,
Thanks for the advice. What is this sealant you refer to? Who makes it? does it come in a tube like caulking?
Although gluing the floor together sounds like it takes care of the problem, it does nullify the versatility of the floor in that you can "replace" a damaged board in the future.

AzFred

03:48AM | 01/02/03
Member Since: 05/09/01
13 lifetime posts
Expectations in life are an interesting thing. Water is no friend to wood nor wood products. The need to avoid moisture is mentioned in both warrantee and installation instructions of EVERY major brand several times. The sad but true story is that expectations of a waterproof floor that contains hardwood or laminate are a mistake. Topical moisture on a Uniclic floor has the best chance of survival among the laminates(See court report at patent hearing) but standing water is just more than the floor is designed for.

Sealent (Silicone) is a great help at the edges of the floor but won't help at the plank joints and glue is NOT an option as it will cause a substrate failure from hydraulic pressure at assembly.

[This message has been edited by AzFred (edited January 02, 2003).]

msilva

04:04AM | 01/02/03
Member Since: 10/22/02
6 lifetime posts
Azfred,
You are correct about expectations.
I was in the market for an Armstrong product when the sales rep for Uniclic happened to be in the showroom and said the following "the floor (Uniclic) will withstand water for up to 5 days without damage". I don't expect that of any similar product.
The fact is that this product is very similar to hardboard siding, which is no longer used because of the swelling that occurs when exposed to moisture. Wood floors are not destroyed by similar moisture that ruined my floor.
You obviously have some stake in Uniclic. This is a forum to discuss problems and solutions to them, so, please take your opinions about expectations somewhere else if you have nothing of value to offer.
I am trying to find a solution to a problem here, not complain about the company, although, if someone whants my opinion on Uniclic, I will freely share it.

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