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burlmont

02:06PM | 04/02/03
Member Since: 10/31/00
16 lifetime posts
Bvflooring
We KNOW lack of humidity led to the appearance of gaps in the finished flooring and that HOPEFULLY a return to normal humidity will result in a return to normal for the appearance of the flooring, PROVIDED we can keep dust, dirt, and other debris from filling those gaps during the next nine months.

What we ARE asking is whether screwing strips of wood - soft/hard/ply - at appropriate intervals - from the underside/cellar side of the floor and the length of each bay, through the underlayment and partially into the finished hardwood, would reduce or at least evenly distribute the movement that occurs when there are drastic changes in humidity.

Jay J

02:42PM | 04/02/03
Member Since: 10/26/00
782 lifetime posts
Don't do it!

If you don't let the wood 'move' at the rate it wants to move, it may end up splitting. If you take a moment to think about it, your hardwood floor is secured at the TONGUE end ONLY. The rest of the strip/plank is free to move, left and right, up against the next piece of flooring. By securing it in ALL kinds of places (from the underside), the flooring won't move at all. With that, you will create a WORST problem than you have.

Get the humidity level back to 35% +/-, and see what happens. That's a good start.

My best to ya and hope this helps.

Jay J -Moderator

PS: What you want to do isn't 'affected' by the fact that the sub-floor runs the say direction as the finished floor. Your particular installation MAY cause vertical movement if strips/planks are on-line w/a seam in the sub-floor. If this occurs, then shim the sub-floor from below, or re-enforce the 'spot' from below by running a support member in the OPPOSITE direction as the finished floor ...

PPS: God Bless AMerica!

carpetman

09:23PM | 04/02/03
Member Since: 01/26/03
542 lifetime posts
i agree,dont do anything,let nature take its course,the floor will return to normal with the walmer weather,you might try a little floor wax in the gaps to keep out the junk. as the floor expands it will squeeze out the wax . good luck

burlmont

03:25PM | 04/03/03
Member Since: 10/31/00
16 lifetime posts
First, a BIG thanx to JJ and Carpetman. And I HEAR you, I HEAR you, and I'm thinking, I'm thinking! BUT, I'm in no hurry, and want to use the next nine months(while awaiting the return of the finished flooring to more normal moisture content level) to figure out some way to avoid having to repeat this process every year.

Next, C'man, I've covered the entire floor, wall to wall, with cardboard used for shipping large appliances, to keep dirt and debris out of the gaps. I expect this will slow the return of normal moisture content levels and the restoration of more 'normal' alignment of the finished flooring and underlayment. Not til that happens would we plan on 'doing' anything!!

JJ, this caught my attention: "Your particular installation MAY cause vertical movement if strips/planks are on-line w/a seam in the sub-floor." This is definitely the case. We made a 'story pole' and the gaps are in line with the edges of the 8" underlayment boarding. These gaps run the entire length of the floorboards, every fourth finished board or so..

You continued: "If this occurs, then shim the sub-floor from below, or re-enforce the 'spot' from below by running a support member in the OPPOSITE direction as the finished floor". It had been my thought to run boarding, from underneath the underlayment, the length of the bays created by the floor joists, and therefore, OPPOSITE(at right angles to) all the flooring as it is presently installed, and screwed through to the underside of the finished flooring, every board if necessary, or at appropriate locations otherwise. As I've said, there's no rush, but a knotty problem.

And, if shimming, where should the shim be placed in relation to the seams and/or the floor joists? What are the ‘spots’ you mention? And does it appear that I have even a glimmer of understanding what issues might be involved?

BTW, is this this the way everybody laid floors back in the twenties? And every house on the block, too ;-)

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