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jackie61

05:39AM | 02/09/05
Member Since: 02/08/05
11 lifetime posts
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I decided to do the lower bathroom in our split level. I think I opened a can of worms. I removed the toilet and sink and now am in the process of removing the flooring. UGH! I removed the first layer which was a vinyl sheet, under that was tile which I have removed most of. My question is....there is a black tar like goop under the tiles(which was applied to cement) I was told that I should put down a leveler. I'm concerned that the leveler will not adhere to the goop.What in God's name should I do. I'm thinking just to shut the door and deny that that room exists.

jackie61

06:41AM | 02/09/05
Member Since: 02/08/05
11 lifetime posts
Thanks so much for your response. The answer to one of your questions is Yes it is a concrete slab. I have a split level and this level is at ground level. The floor underneath is positively concrete with like I said a very sticky tar like goop. The answer to your second question is I don't know.... what type of flooring I'll use. I guess it depends on what that stuff is. My husband is ready to kill me. I was supose to just remove the old wall paper and spackle. The next thing I remember is hauling out the old toilet!!!!!And that's when everything went black. Literally. If you have anymore suggestions PLEASE let me know. Thanks again

ethanbancroft

08:52AM | 02/09/05
Member Since: 01/28/05
11 lifetime posts
that is tile cement tar goop ,you could try putting tile down on it, see if new tile will stay put!

mineralspirits will remove tar etc

be sure to use plenty of ventilation .. Mineral spirits are toxic!

jackie61

09:16AM | 02/09/05
Member Since: 02/08/05
11 lifetime posts
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.. One more question..The tar goop has scraps of plaster and other little peices of stuff. Can I re-apply another coat of it? Cause I really don't want to have to remove it. Thanks

jackie61

12:44PM | 02/09/05
Member Since: 02/08/05
11 lifetime posts
HUMMMM. Flammable you said. Sounds interesting....TEE HEE TEE HEE. Only joking. I did have concerns about the plywood ie. How do I attach it to the concrete? Oh, by the way did I tell you I have no remodeling skills what so ever!!! I'm learning though. Resourceful and determined, I am. I hope that accounts for something. As I said this started out as a wallpapering project. But that's me. A bull in a china shop as my hubby says. Actually he's not saying much these days...too ****ed off at me. I'm not affraid to do this job the only thing that's in my way now is that darn goop. I agree with you that the tiles will probably not stick. Hopefully I'll get an answer to my question reguarding re-applying somemore tar goop. What do you think about that idea? Can you check with your other moderator buddies? Hey how about Bob? Let's give him a ring... K2 thanks for all your input. I greatly appreciate it. Jackie

jackie61

05:30AM | 02/11/05
Member Since: 02/08/05
11 lifetime posts
K2, Would have responded quicker but I was laughing to hard when you said to have my Husband help, took me awhile to catch my breath. Electronics he's a wiz. When it comes to this stuff FORRGETTABOUTIT. We argue tooo much. Actually, for the last year or so we've had major renovations done here. Two new bathrooms and the kitchen.(Contracted out, of course) The kitchen is awesome by the way. So I think he is still shell shocked over that. The last thing he wants is another project. The house has four floors now I'm working on the 3rd. Family room for the kids and their friends. The bathroom is off of that room. I just couldn't leave it half done.

I also posted my question on Ask the experts.

Where you have someone contact you (for a fee of course) Heck, I figured it was worth $10-$20 to get an answer. Two days and no response. I think your right. I'll just stay active (I 'm sure I'll have plenty more questions) and maybe I'll get an answer. Actually heading over to your neck of the woods (miscellaneous) I have a grout question ( Not getting any answers on the tile and flooring area)Also need to find out if the guy ever found out what that smell was in the bedroom. I actually put my two cents in as well. Thanks for your help...If you ever get answer let me know and If I do I'll foward it along to you. Take care...Oh, by the way I'ts a NY minute (I should know being from Jersey) :)

jackie61

06:13AM | 02/11/05
Member Since: 02/08/05
11 lifetime posts
MONEY? I have credit cards!!!!!! Doesn't cost me a thing. DUH, perfect solution....going to a tile store. Kill two birds with one stone, err tile. I'll let you know how I make out. Thanks

ethanbancroft

08:18AM | 02/11/05
Member Since: 01/28/05
11 lifetime posts
well,4 whatever it is worth,

i had sme stuff on my cement pad under flooring

i had plenty of ventilation, and no pilot lights on

the ans "a small amount of mineral spirits, brushed over your tar goop, softens it enough to put new fooring down.

i did it, using wood parquet squares, they had tar like adhesive on backing!

worked nicely

the tar goop u have is probably what the contractor , probably put down to keep water out

you could put 1/2 inch ply wood down and start over

but then you have to worry about trim around toilet

jackie61

08:37AM | 02/11/05
Member Since: 02/08/05
11 lifetime posts
Seeing that my skills are extremely limited. That sounds like another alternative. Worth a shot. Not thrilled about mineral spirits though. If it works GREAT. I'll just do it in small batches... with plenty of ventalation. Thanks for the tip.

womanonamission

02:13PM | 02/20/05
Member Since: 01/20/99
23 lifetime posts
jackie61 and k2, thanks for helping me figure out what the heck the stuff was underneath my 40+ year old vinyl tile flooring that had been hidden under a rather pretty but smelly carpet.

Unfortunately the stuff I have is not goopy anymore and as I began to remove the carpet pad, the tiles began to break and adhere to padding. I have not started in earnest to remove the tiles because I am afraid that with the breakage removal will become a real chore.

Since I don't have the goop problem am I OK just installing a new floor over the concrete? I'd thought about doing another layer of vinyl since my dogs like it down there. However, since the room is pretty cool in winter, I thought carpet might be better. Also since this is one bottom floor of a tri-level I couldn't figure out what to do with the stairs leading down to it if I did do vinyl.

jackie61, after using mineral spirits to clean layers of adhesive and other assorted goo in my kitchen cabinets, I'd hold off using the mineral spirits until warm weather will allow you to open a few windows. I did this during an Illinois winter and it was pretty miserable. I ended up having to open the windows and pretty much catching the biggest chill this former New Orleanian has ever seen.

Thanks for your post I hope you can find a good solution to your goop problem.
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