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rowiga

09:19AM | 06/09/05
Member Since: 06/08/05
24 lifetime posts
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My wife and I are spending a lot of time working on a house that we recently bought...Hey, it keeps me off the street and somewhat out of trouble. The only trouble I get into now is balancing my checkbook. For some reason the amount I put in is always less than the amount of checks I write...hmmmm. As of now I think that there isn't a room in the house that doesn't have some sort of demolition going on. The house is a balloon frame built in the 1850's. So, we're in the bathroom now. The floor has a dip in the center of the 8'x10' room of about 3/4". We plan on putting down a 3/4" tongue and groove plywood floor over the top of the existing hardwood floor followed vinyl. I don't really care if the floor is "level" but I would like it to at least be flat enough so that when we put our baseboard on the cat can't escape through the gap at the bottom. After reading postings from several forum archives I see that there are multiple approaches that were noted.

1) Jack up the floor....We can't use this option because the floor joists aren't sagging. They were actually put into the house at varying heights or some type of strange settling went on during the cannon fire during the Civil War.

2) Shim between the subfloor and floor joists....This sounds like a lot of work to me and manual labor isn't one of my strong points. A pencil is normally the heaviest thing that I pick up through the course of the day. Picking up a stapler causes beads of sweat to appear on my forehead.

3) Use a leveling agent....I've heard good news and bad news concerning leveling agents. Some people swear by them and some say to avoid them like red-headed step-children.

4) Use tar paper (or roofing shingles)....I knew I should have saved all of those roofing shingles that fell out of the ceiling in the bedroom.

I don't know. Right now, the tar paper method seems to be something doable to me but may not be what I SHOULD do. Of course mom said I should be a doctor and I didn't do that either....probably why I'm having problems with my checkbook now.

What do you think?

Piffin

12:44PM | 06/11/05
Member Since: 11/06/02
1284 lifetime posts
Well, if you have an aversion to manual work, you should have bought a condo instead of a historic house, but shimming is the best and easiest solution in my mind for flattening thje floor, but you might be creating other problems and more work by laaying 3/4" over an old floor. For one, the toilet seet up will not fit without extending the connection...and the door threshold will have to be carefully adressed top avoid a trip hazard...which brings us back to doctors...

Excellence is its own reward!


rowiga

03:36AM | 06/13/05
Member Since: 06/08/05
24 lifetime posts
Thanks Piffin...in all seriousness, my wife and I have both been vigorously working on remodeling/repairing this old house. We love the feel of it and the setting. It sits on a rolling landscape nestled among large pines with a plethera of plants and flowers all around. We've been painstakingly removing all of the lath and plaster to allow us to insulate the walls and replace the old cloth wiring. Anyway, this past weekend we decided to pull up our sleeves and address the floor issue. After a bit of sweat, a few grunts and some head scratching we were able to shim the floor to within about a quarter of an inch all around. When I first ran a string across the floor I found it to be off by about an inch and an eighth. We plan on applying a layer of tar paper for a bit of a water barrier as well as using it to provide some additional fine tuning of the floor flatness.

As far as adding the 3/4" plywood goes...the previous owner(s) already had the floor boosted up another 3/4" using plywood, partical board, carpet padding, paneling, linoleum and I swear there was some old tractor tires thrown in there somewhere too....ok, maybe not. We took all of that stuff out to get back to the original floor so putting in the plywood will bring us back up to the level of the adjoining room.

Piffin

06:38PM | 06/13/05
Member Since: 11/06/02
1284 lifetime posts
but with a level floor, where's the water gonna run while you drip-dry now?

;)

Excellence is its own reward!


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