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Gaprofitt11

05:11AM | 05/12/05
Member Since: 05/11/05
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Hi All,

I finally found out where my leak is coming from, now I need some help, the cracks on each side look too big to just caulk. Would I call a roofer to fix this? I'm assuming this happened when the house settled. Please see my pictures at

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/greggap/album?.dir=/a137&.src=ph&.tok=phIzf.CByP3gCpLW

Thanks for any help.

Greg

doug seibert

05:38AM | 05/12/05
Member Since: 08/10/02
843 lifetime posts
You need flashing/step-flashing to divert the water .....

You can't rely on the caulking to prevent leaks....

tomh

06:54AM | 05/12/05
Member Since: 07/01/03
558 lifetime posts
I kind of disagree with Doug on this. The gaps appear to be along the edge of an apron inside a dormer under the dormer eaves where the soffit meets the roof.

This is a relatively protected area and would only leak with driven rain. If water entered, it would fall to the soffit under the apron and might work back towards the inside. Step flashing would not ordinarily be used here. Its just one of those hard to reach details that has probably been exposed since it was built, and only came to your attention after driven or a particularly hard rain storm. Caulking along that gap should solve the problem.

Gaprofitt11

07:03AM | 05/12/05
Member Since: 05/11/05
5 lifetime posts


It's about a 2 inch gap in one section, if I caulk how do I keep the water from sitting up against the front board. Wouldn't the water just sit in that corner?

dodgeroof

03:03PM | 05/12/05
Member Since: 03/27/05
95 lifetime posts
I lean towards what tomh said. But, I also wonder WHERE your leaking is showing up inside, because what I see in your photos don't seem to me to be the likely source of a leak.

Having seen all kinds of leaks over the years...including "unlikely ones", the area shown in the photo could be your problem....but actually.... what is your problem? Where is it showing up inside, or is it just a leak through the soffit/fascia area? Do you have more photos or can you snap a few more showing more of the general area? Just wondering...

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Gaprofitt11

04:40PM | 05/12/05
Member Since: 05/11/05
5 lifetime posts
I posted some more pictures on the link above in my original post. The water is coming in at various locations at both windows, sometimes it's the top window, sometimes it's the lower window.Apparently it drips down to the bottom window and comes out the top of the frame or out the bottom of the frame. It seems to leak more when it's a heavy rain with wind. It's been really hard to pinpoint. I caulked around where the brick meets the frame, the windows seem to have no gaps around them and I caulked them. Just recently did I notice these gaps in the eaves.

Thanks for the Help.

Greg

doug seibert

10:17AM | 05/13/05
Member Since: 08/10/02
843 lifetime posts
Ahhhh........The leaking windows are "punched out".....located within this soffit......

I'm not a PRO........but I think any time a roof meets any wood you need to flash.....and to fill that crack you'd need some of that 1" Caulking ........IMO "relatively protected" doesn't matter...

Greg.......as a DIY repair to prevent the wood rotting I would look to pull the soffit OUT toward the edge of the rake where it meets the roof....then flash the area to divert the water...Grace membrane waterproofing would make it easy.........

same problem detail above this small section of roof below the siding.....where's the flashing.....how does anyone repair/replace these shingles.......the "top" shingles are just stacked multiple layers......what makes the weather seal ?

This job looks loose in a couple places.....what climate is this ?

......What about those windows within that painted "Sea of wood".....Plywood, flat stock and mouldings.......how much caulk glues that together ?........we can't do that in Florida (and expect it to last 6 months)


tomh

04:06PM | 05/13/05
Member Since: 07/01/03
558 lifetime posts
The new pictures do help, and I don't think your problem is in the roofing at all. Now I agree with Doug. The problem is likely the rain and runoff from the dormer apron into improperly flashed windows and trim. If the house is relatively new, the contractor or window subcontractor should inspect and make any necessary repairs. If you are really on your own, you need to understand window flashing and caulking. Doug's suggestion that the window be sheltered from direct weather is also good, but I don't know how you could easily retrofit this.

Gaprofitt11

07:38PM | 05/13/05
Member Since: 05/11/05
5 lifetime posts
The main reason I thought it might be the gaps in the roof eave corners is I found when I squirt water above the top window and let it run down it seems to never leak. I haven't tried squirting water up into the eaves yet. I wish I knew more about house construction, is it likely for the water to get into the corners of the eaves and run back to the windows somehow. When I feel around the outside of the windows it is caulked nicely and seems to be really sealed well. With or without flashing I don't see how water would get in from around the windows on the outside. My builder did tell me the windows are flush mounted and don't require flashing, he didn't seem to know whether they flashed or not but I don't see any on the outside of the windows that is visable. By the way I live in Georgia.


dodgeroof

04:09PM | 05/14/05
Member Since: 03/27/05
95 lifetime posts
When/if you test in with a hose, keep in mind you can actually make things leak that might never otherwise leak under any weather conditions. You can force water uphill under things that might work fine except under "high pressure hose conditions"

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