was told about this situation and being in business for over 50 years he stated that the BBB would shut him down if he did not use concrete as all customers expect it and demand it. Per him, a fence would not stand up without it. Some people do not understand the nature of clay soils when wet and when dry. He commented that all his fence posts holes whether PT or Cedar or Redwood or whatever he has a flared hole at the bottom and concrete poured in the hole and wetted down.