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Posted by noone special on December 26th, 2004 11:52 AM
In reply to FilterQueen - Reply to Jerry by Dirk Schepens on June 23rd, 2004 07:01 AM [Go to top of thread]

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Well everyone, here's the real deal.

Rainbow's have had Hepa filters on the exhaust for about 10 years for 2 reasons. ! the water does not stop non water soluable contaminates like Talcon power, fire place ash, drywall dust- stuff like that bounces off the water and out the exhaust, 2nd the motor itself has carbon brushes like almost every electric motor in the world. The exhaust for cooling the motor does not pass through the water- nor would it matter since carbon dust is also not water soluable so the HEPA traps what the water can't.

The problem with a Kirby, a Filter Queen, or a Dust Buster for thatmatter is simply the bag and fiter. It doesn;t matter how small the filter's pores are, they still are holes.
Now a Filter queen's filter may be better than Hepa rated (so is the Rainbow By the Way- and the E2 is now Certified as an air Purefier- the ONLY vaccuum EVER to gain that) but it doesn;t mean your cleaning better.

Think of it like this- Inorder for the vaccuum to wrk the air must go through the filter, if it couldn;t pass through then it couldn;t carry in dust and dirt. Fact of physics- (that's why bags/filters are made of paper or cloth they are porus) If you used a baloon air couldn;t get out- dirt wouldn;t get out but the machine couldn;t work. The bag/filter is a window screen (as said before) only really really small. When you start vacuuming the air runs through all of the open pores easily and this means air can easily enter the machine bringing in the dirt and dust with it.
The pieces of dirt and dust are varying size, some bigger than the pores of the filter and some smaller. The small pieces pass right through the filers and back out for you to breathe (or they collect around the filter/bag tray and exhaust outlet from static) The big pieces can't fit through the pores(holes) in the bag/filter and get stuck in the bag. Now, when the big pieces get stuck in the pores of the bag or filter they plug up those pores making it harder for the air to pass through the bag/filter so the air flow slows down and the ability for the air to carry heavier pieces of dirt deminishes.
After a few minutes of vaccumming (depending on the machine as little as 3 minutes) the inside of the filets is completely covered in dirt and dust in the majority of cases rendering the filter useless because the light dust is all it can carry in and the heavy sand and dirt is left behind.

Now, Hepa filters (or better than HEPA) are the same construction as normal bags and filter, the pores are just smaller. So, with smaller holes more pieces of dirt (smaller pieces) stay in the filter. If more pieces of dirt stay in the filter for the same amount of dirt coming in and the same airflow at the start with a clean filter the result must simply be that the filter CLOGS just as fast or FASTER because the bigger pieces of dirt block more pores (snce the pores are smaller) and the smaller pieces block the pores (that would have passed through before). SO what does this really mean? ALL filters clog- it is a flaw n their inherent nature. It doesn't matter how small the pores are (hepa rated, better than hepa rated, sponge foam like the shop vac filters).
The Dyson uses centrifugal force to "throw" the dirt out of the air into a collection bin with no filters- this would be the 2nd best choice against a Rainbow- and a much better choice than ANY vaccuum with any kind of filter.
The Rainbow, with no filter to clog, doesn;t loose the airflow needed to carry the heavy dirt and sand and such into the collection container. The Dolphin uses the same concept of water filteration, but not the same effeciancy (the Rainbow design is patented).

BTW read the printing on all of your filters and bags- doesn't matter what brand- they all say "change this filter/bag after every use"- that doesn't mean every month, every week, when it's full. It means put in a new bag every time you use the machine- do you know why? Because the manufacturer's know the bag and filter clogs, and they know you don;t clean as well afer it clogs (after the first room), they also know that "vaccum cleaner" smell that everyone recognizes (you know that just vaccumed room smell) is bacteria and dust mites and such breading in the filth in those bags. And IF you change those bags and filters like they tell you to guess how much money you spend a year on bags? Anyone have any idea how much profit there is in bags and filters for those companies? It's more than selling the vaccuum for sure!


I used o sell Rainbows, and when I started I was VERY skeptical of a $2000 dollar vaccuum. I had a very hard time seling ay because I didn;t believe in the machine. I did the training from my distributor, ran a couple shows/demonstrations, and still said "I would NEVER spend that kind of money on a vacuum!"
After letting me borrow one for a week at home and really useing it and talking to customers that had severe allergies and finding the results they had useing Rainbows I started to understand why it worked. Once I started to understand it and believe in it I will NEVER use any other vacuum in my home (and since Rainbows last 30+ years when you remember not to leaves the water bason on it I will never have to).
I got the est feeling when someone bought a Rainbow from me who had allergies, or had family with allergies and heard how much of an improvement there was the following week. I have many stories from personal sales.

The only failing for a Rainbow is user error. 99% of the problem is people are too lazy empty the water after useing it and they let it sit for a couple of days, or deciding to replace the basin under the machine after emptying it. If you do that the moisture in the basin (even if you dry it after you empty it there is still moisture on the seperator of the machine) will cause the bearings in the motor to rust. The E2 has better seals for the motor bearings but it WILL still happen, and replacing the motor is not cheap.

That is THE only maintenance you ever need to do to a Rainbow. (the E series needs the seperator cleaned about once a month the E2 doesn;t need it cleaned at all)

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