Good points Jason. Sometimes one tends to take things for granted. You bring up some good safety points when working with electricity. My Dad worked 35 years as an electrician in a paper mill, and some of the things he used to do were definitely not for the novice. For instance to check if a particular circuit for a motor was 220 3phase or 440 3phase, he would touch two fingers (same hand) across the hot terminals!! Of course he was always careful to be sure he wasn't grounded or shorted to another circuit. Thanks, Dodgeman