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peteypete

06:48AM | 03/11/05
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I have a Kenmore Washer (70 Series) that will not drain. It will wash but it will not click over to drain or spin - any suggestions?

DanO

08:52AM | 03/11/05
Member Since: 11/11/02
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** Kenmore Washer (70 Series) **

I'm afraid that is not enough information to identify the washer you have. What is needed is the appliance's *model number* as pritned on the washer's model and serial number tag ("70 Series" isn't it) so we can find out what design of washer it is.

You can find tips for locating the model and serial number tag on your appliances in the 'Repair Parts' section of my site linked below.

** it will not click over to drain or spin **

You mean the timer isn't advancing into the spin cycle (or past it)?

If so, that might just be caused be a defective lid switch or lid switch actuator or a possibly problem in the timer.

If not, please clarify exactly what is or is not happening and when.

Dan O.

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peteypete

01:09PM | 03/12/05
Member Since: 03/10/05
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You are correct. The timer will not advance to the next cycle (drain, or then to spin).

It is a Syle Master #909961, Serial #CG383777, Model #110.26712693

Thank You.

DanO

03:21PM | 03/12/05
Member Since: 11/11/02
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That might just be caused by a defective lid switch or lid switch actuator. Those should be the first things to check.

Dan O.

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peteypete

10:19AM | 03/17/05
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It worked. Thank you so much.

DanO

10:52AM | 03/17/05
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** It worked. **

Which did, replace the lid switch or repair the switch's actuator?

Just curious.

Dan O.

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peteypete

02:28PM | 03/17/05
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It was the lid switch that had to be replaced. Over a period of time, it seemed that it had weakened. The brackets that the screws bore into broke, thereby causing the switch itself to fall apart.

Thanks again!

DanO

08:36AM | 03/28/05
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Glad to hear it, thanks for the follow up!

Dan O.

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555555

06:44AM | 07/16/06
Member Since: 07/15/06
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Hello, I'm new here and I'm having the same problem as the guy above with my washer. I'm trying to change the same part but my machine model # is 22712100 and the problem I'm having is getting the top off so that I can replace the part. It looks as though I'll need to take the entire back panel but I'm hopeing I don't have to go that far.

Is there a way to get the top off without taking the entire back panel off?

Thanks so much for any advise

DanO

08:50AM | 07/16/06
Member Since: 11/11/02
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** my machine model # is 22712100 **

The complete model number looks to be 110.22712100 making it a Whirlpool built 'direct drive' model.

** the problem I'm having is getting the top off so that I can replace the [lid switch]. **

I would imagine you would have trouble there since the top is NOT designed to come off of that design of washer. The whole cabinet is removed (or just tilted forward) for most internal component service (see the following link).

- Removing the cabinet on a Direct Drive washer....

LINK > http://www.applianceaid.com/newlinks.html

You can see the lid switch for your washer model at this link.

- Kenmore 110.22712100 (and other) Washer Lid Switch

LINK > http://www.appliance411.com/data.php?rc=547222

JFYI

Dan O.

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555555

09:44AM | 07/16/06
Member Since: 07/15/06
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Ok, I thank you for your help, and I've got the new peice installed and it's back together. Now the problem is, it still will not drain or spin.

I'm guessing that I've installed it incorrectly or that there is another problem. Any suggestions?

555555

09:50AM | 07/16/06
Member Since: 07/15/06
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Before I replaced the old part, it would spin if I put a screw driver into the whole to activate the lid switch. But now that the part is back on, it will not do it at all.

I'm sure It's something that I've done as I don't think I have the wrong part. Thanks again.

DanO

01:50PM | 07/16/06
Member Since: 11/11/02
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** I'm guessing that I've installed it incorrectly **

That would be my quess as well.

Dan O.

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bearscout7

02:23PM | 09/22/06
Member Since: 09/21/06
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there is a plastic pin that activates a switch when you close the lid.

check to make sure the pin did not break.

if the pin did not break then you have a bad safety switch.

my washer did the same think. and allthough i dont advise it you can disconnect the safety swith and that will fix your problem. thats what i did.

daams123

10:51AM | 12/08/06
Member Since: 12/07/06
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replace lid switch

dcmngs44

11:29AM | 12/16/06
Member Since: 12/15/06
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Where do you find this info on/in the washer?

DanO

10:11AM | 12/17/06
Member Since: 11/11/02
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** Where do you find [the model and serial number] on/in the washer? **

You can find tips for locating the model and serial number identification tag on your appliances in the 'Repair Parts' section of my web site linked below.

JFYI

Dan O.

www.Appliance411.com/parts/?ref411=Kenmore+Washer

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stopletz

07:59PM | 04/29/07
Member Since: 04/28/07
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The washer works fine up to the point where it is supposed to drain. The timer moves along no problem. Only when we get to the drain point it does nothing. I have tried it lid up and down, pushing down on the switch, and when it is supposed to go to drain mode I hear a click and nothing happens. No sound, nothing. I have blown into the drain hose to see if there is a clog, none so far.

Is this also a switch issue?

DanO

10:23PM | 04/29/07
Member Since: 11/11/02
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** Is this also a switch issue? **

If the timer stop moving at that point and never moves further on its own, the switch is a possibility... depending on the exact model of washer in question ("70 Series" isn't it).

You can find tips for locating the model number identification tag on your appliances in the 'Repair Parts' section of my web site linked below.

Dan O.

www.Appliance411.com/parts/?ref411=Kenmore+Washer

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stopletz

01:22PM | 04/30/07
Member Since: 04/28/07
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MOD 110. 20712 990

SER CK 1282040

TYPE 111

DanO

06:57PM | 04/30/07
Member Since: 11/11/02
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** Mod. 110.20712990

Yes, on that model if the timer stopped moving at that point and never moved further, the lid switch (see the following link) or its actuation mechanism is the prime possibility.

- Kenmore 110.20712990 Lid Switch

LINK > http://www.appliance411.com/data.php?rc=547222

JMO

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stopletz

07:15AM | 05/01/07
Member Since: 04/28/07
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I removed the lid switch and disconnected it. According to some other poster, if you removed it, it would start working. I figured this would be a way to test it. After removing it still didn't work. Does this mean it is not the lid switch, or should i bridge the connection to test, unlike what the other poster said?

DanO

10:25AM | 05/01/07
Member Since: 11/11/02
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** According to some other poster, if you removed it, it would start working. I figured this would be a way to test it. **

No. The lid switch MUST be functioning (closing its contacts) before the washer will operate. When it fails, its contacts remain open and thus the problem... which would be the same as with the switch removed from the circuit.

BTW. You can read how to test a switch's contacts at the following link:

- How do I test for continuity?

LINK > http://www.appliance411.com/links/jump.cgi?ID=817

JFYI

Dan O.

www.Appliance411.com/parts/?ref411=Kenmore+Washer

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stopletz

10:19PM | 05/07/07
Member Since: 04/28/07
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I removed the switch, cut the cable and connected the two cables together and plugged it back in. The washer worked again, and in the mean time I ordered a new lid switch which arrived today.

Thanks so much

DanO

10:53PM | 05/07/07
Member Since: 11/11/02
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Glad to hear you found the problem. Yes, don't leave it bypassed as it is a safety device. If defective it should be replaced.

Thanks for the follow up.

Dan O.

www.Appliance411.com/parts/?ref411=Kenmore+Washer

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sleepypants1

03:48PM | 01/13/08
Member Since: 01/12/08
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I seem to have the same problem as well. My lid switch is falling apart as well. I'm not sure exactly how to repair it. It's a Kenmore 70 Series, model number #22722 Series #CL1501348.

Thanks.

DanO

06:12PM | 01/13/08
Member Since: 11/11/02
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** Kenmore [washer] model number # 22722 [Serial] # CL1501348. **

That model number is missing the 3-digit manufacturer's prefix numbers and also more numbers besides that. Can you post the complete information?

** My lid switch is falling apart as well. I'm not sure exactly how to repair it. **

If it is the switch itself that has broken, replace it. If you post the complete model number we may be able to show you a picture of how it is suppose to look.

JFYI

Dan O.

www.Appliance411.com/parts/?ref411=Kenmore+Washer

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pyrael

04:08AM | 01/24/08
Member Since: 01/23/08
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I have diagnosed the problem after reading this hread, but i have one question:

My switch works, It's the plastic part where the screws attach it to the machine that are broke. Do I have to buy the ENTIRE switch assembly? Or can just that "holder" be replaced?

Thanks Much

Steve

DanO

08:18AM | 01/24/08
Member Since: 11/11/02
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** the plastic part where the screws attach it to the machine that are broke. Do I have to buy the ENTIRE switch assembly? **

The lid switch is only sold as a single part. Unless you can somehow repair the original, the whole lid switch assembly would usually have to be replaced, yes. They're not usually overly expensive like on some other washer brands.

- Kenmore 110.22712100 Lid Switch Asm.

LINK > www.appliance411.com/data.php?ap=AP3100001

JMO

Dan O.

www.Appliance411.com/parts/?ref411=Kenmore+Washer

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sleepypants1

10:30PM | 02/03/08
Member Since: 01/12/08
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the model number of my Kenmore is

110.22722 100

serial CL 1501348

Type 111

My problem is the same as the guys with the plastic around the screws. They just came apart. I have duct taped the assembly to the underside of the machine. So, it works for now. But, I guess I have to replace the entire assembly. I'm just unsure how to go about it.

Thanks for your help.

DanO

07:59AM | 02/04/08
Member Since: 11/11/02
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** I have duct taped the assembly to the underside of the machine. I guess I have to replace the entire assembly **

Yes.

** I'm just unsure how to go about it. **

On the 'direct drive' washer design like you have the whole cabinet may have to be removed (or at least tilted forward) to access the switch assembly and wiring:

- Direct Drive Lid Switch Replacement

LINK > www.the-appliance-clinic.com/ddlidsw.html

JFYI

Dan O.

www.Appliance411.com/parts/?ref411=Kenmore+Washer

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sleepypants1

08:43AM | 02/04/08
Member Since: 01/12/08
3 lifetime posts
Thanks. Those instructions are very detailed. It seems somewhat simple.

My next question is regarding the part though. I went to the link you provided me and could only find a hit on the Sears Direct Parts list, but not sure if it's right because they don't have pics. But, I also went to the link you provided the other guy:

- Kenmore 110.22712100 Lid Switch Asm.

LINK > www.appliance411.com/data.php?ap=AP3100001

But his is a different model number and I can't seem to find mine at that same site. Am I missing something? Or will the same part work with my washer?

Thanks again.

DanO

12:17PM | 02/04/08
Member Since: 11/11/02
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** But his is a different model number. Will the same part work with my washer?

Yes, your washer model uses that same lid switch. It is a fairly common one although there are a couple of different ones used on other washer models. It may not look absolutely identical to the original but it is the factory suggested replacement.

- Kenmore 110.22722100 Lid Switch Asm.

LINK > www.appliance411.com/data.php?ap=AP3100001

JFYI

Dan O.

www.Appliance411.com/parts/?ref411=Kenmore+Washer

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Patrick08

09:00AM | 04/28/08
Member Since: 04/27/08
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My lid switch on my Kenmore 70 series (don't know the model number, haven't looked for it yet) broke yesterday and I'm so happy to find this thread. Could you be a little more specific about what two cables to cut and connect for temp solution before you got your new part? I could see that the broken plastic piece has two cables attached? Are these the ones and I can do it without removing the case? Also, how did you remove the case to put in the new switch. Many many thanks to your timely advice in advance.

Pat

Pat

DanO

06:42PM | 04/29/08
Member Since: 11/11/02
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** what two cables to cut and connect for temp solution before you got your new part? **

It would be the wires going to/from the lid switch but bypassing any safety device (which the lid switch is) except for the limited purpose of testing is not a good idea.

JMO

Dan O.

www.Appliance411.com/parts/?ref411=Kenmore+Washer

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bbuzz00

04:29AM | 07/23/08
Member Since: 07/22/08
1 lifetime posts
I'm having the same problem as the original poster. Timer rolls over to drain and stops. I've tried pushing the lid switch trigger in every direction possible, to no avail. You thinking it's the lid switch?

DanO

09:52AM | 07/23/08
Member Since: 11/11/02
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** You thinking it's the lid switch? **

It could be a possibility but there's only one way to find out for sure, test its functioning. There's little use in (us or you) guessing.

- How do I test for continuity?

LINK > www.appliance411.com/links/jump.cgi?ID=817

- Kenmore 110.20422991 Lid Switch Asm.

LINK > www.appliance411.com/data.php?ap=AP3100001

JMO

Dan O.

www.Appliance411.com/parts/?ref411=Kenmore+Washer

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KTsmom

01:13PM | 07/24/08
Member Since: 07/23/08
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Thank you so much Dan for sharing the link to that slide show. It was truly a time saver for us.

sheriberry4

09:43AM | 08/21/08
Member Since: 08/20/08
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model# is 82872100, Serial# is 09510728. The timer moves along just fine making the clicking sound as it goes around, it's stopping at the Rinse/Spin cycle. All it does is make a buzzing noise almost like the motor is running but can't go any where. It stops then goes again until it finally gets to the done/off but there is still water in the tank.

blhcq10

11:33AM | 09/03/09
Member Since: 09/02/09
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Hello,

My 70 series Kenmore washer also will not advance. My machine model # is 110.82370800. The washer seems to working on all functions except I need to manually advance the timer knob or it will stay the same place and runs forever. How to I determine if I need a lid switch or a timer.

Thanks so much for any advise.

DanO

07:48AM | 09/10/09
Member Since: 11/11/02
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** I need to manually advance the timer knob or it will stay the same place **

It won't advance by itself *at all* or at just at select points in the cycle?

** How to I determine if I need a lid switch or a timer. **

If the timer's motor was being powered the timer should be advancing. Power there but NO movement = defective timer.

- Kenmore 110.82370800 Washer Timer

LINK > www.appliance411.com/data.php?ap=AP3099617

JMO

Dan O.

www.Appliance411.com/parts/?ref411=Kenmore+Washer

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rick13

10:35AM | 06/13/10
Member Since: 06/12/10
1 lifetime posts
lid switch ! i JB welded that sucker. worked like a charm.

BV003093

12:05AM | 01/23/14
I replaced my spin gear put everything g back together forgetting to tighten the water pump clams it did 3 loads perfectly until drain hose on water pump came off water everywhere so I went back in and put clamps back on and now the washer won't drain, did something possibly get wet??

BV003843

11:05AM | 04/09/14
My 70 series won't drain or spin but timer goes until cycle is complete, but when I open the washer its full of water. It appears to attempt to spin but water won't drain.

BV004577

09:04PM | 06/05/14
Thanks for the advice on the lid switch. Simple, inexpensive fix that saved me from giving up on a 14-yr-old washer.

rhuerta

01:06PM | 09/06/14
Member Since: 09/06/14
1 lifetime posts
I have a Kenmore 70 series model-110.24722300 serial # CS0263820 that will not drain and go into spin. How can I fix it?

BV014224

12:26PM | 07/06/17
I'm assuming lid is fine and connecting because will wash and agitate.Will not drain or spin.I did pull some plastic bag out so not sure if clogged.Since tub is full of water what should I do


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