04:38AM | 12/20/04
Member Since: 12/17/04
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I live in the Boston area. Had double pane windows with storm windows. Did residing and wanted those easy tilt windows so I bought all new windows. The outside needed to be brown and the inside white to match my decor, so I went with wood clad. I had allready had an Alside vinal window put in the kitchen when I remodeled so I didn't replace that one. Also put vinal windows downstairs(basement) to save some money. We'll now I have 21 new windows. Now winter is here and the kitchen window(Alside) and the basement windows seem to be so much better than the wood windows. Have some condensation on the wood ones sometimes. The glazing on the wood one are 5/8 thick and I think the other ones are 7/8. Do you think storm windows will help?? I paid around 200.00 for the vinal windows and 260.00 for the wood. We installed ourself and I insulated myself so I'm sure it was done right. The only thing I can think of is that the space between the two panes is not large enough and that makes the inside pane so cold. I'll spend the extra money on storms if it would make it warmer. Please help !!! Can't seem to find an answer to my problem.


05:17PM | 12/20/04
Member Since: 11/27/04
174 lifetime posts
the space in between the panes should not make too big a difference, but the spacer used to seperate those pieces of glass make the double pane glass more efficient.

the spacer on better windows are made from a rubber type material(super spacer) that does not conduct cold as easy as the standard spacer made of metal,with a thin seal to the glass.

look in between the panes to see if you have two different spacer systems.

other wise you could also lower the humidity in the house if it is over 40% in the winter. this will greatly reduce sweating on the windows.get a digital humidistat to show the humidity in the house.and as it gets colder outside then the lower humidity you need in the the way of bathroom fan or stove hood fan.

putting storms on your double pane windows will make them like triple pane windows ,but may not be worth the extra cost in dollars of cost of these storms to efficiency.


06:16AM | 12/21/04
Member Since: 12/17/04
3 lifetime posts
Thanks for answering. The humidity in the house is less than 25%. With the old double panes and storms, I had a humidifier on my furnace and never had condensation. I'm thinking that if the two panes are spaced further apart, that allowes more air to flow between them and makes for less condensation. I have now disconnected the humidifier and put a dehumidifier downstairs because I had mold in the attic from the humidity of the house and lack of attic ventalation. Have fixed that problem and lowered humidity considerably, now I have this problem. The only difference now is that these new windows have the panes closer together and I don't have storms. Anyway, I just put plastic on my screen to kind of make a temporary storm on my bathroom window to see if it helps. I have 2 bathroom fans in each of my bathrooms. They are made for large residential bathrooms. Run them for well over 15 minutes after showers. Now I'm turning the heat up to try to warm the glass to stop condensation. That seems to not be too economical.


04:21PM | 12/21/04
Member Since: 11/27/04
174 lifetime posts
with a humidity of 25% , then there should not be any major condensation on the windows and i know it's cold in boston now.

i had forgotton about the r-value in air space...

a quote from the great world of^^

^^^^^The solution is easy, but not cheap. Double-pane glass has a sealed airspace between the inner and outer pane. The wider the space, the higher the insulating value (it decreases sound transmission as well). Since still air is a relatively poor conductor of heat, double-pane windows have R-values in the two to four ranges. Using argon or krypton gas between the panes instead of air increases the R-value by about a third.^^^^^

so storms may be the answer, unless it's possible($$) to replace the double glass with a wider gap double glass, if the window frame allows.

....hopefully someone else here may have another suggestion.....

and a side note about the bathroom fans is to make sure there is enough 'make up air' coming in to prevent any possible backdrafting from your furnace/boiler or hotwater tank.



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