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rnfreeze

09:58AM | 08/22/04
Member Since: 08/21/04
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We are building a new home for ourselves and I noticed something peculiar when I was inside looking at the framework of the house. I noticed that two wall studs were missing in no distinct order. There were also messages written on the floor in black marker saying "NEED STUD" and "NEEDS STUD" in the two areas where one seemed to be absent. I asked my realtor about it and he quickly stated that they were "nerd studs" and that they run only partial distance up the wall instead of a regular stud. I found that a bit fishy so I searched all over the net and have not yet found any documentation on this so-called nerd stud. On top of that, prior to the studs being gone they were initially installed but one of them appeared to break due to hammering or weight. I think it was removed and never replaced. Can someone please help me with this? I do not wish to proceed with purchasing this house if my realtor blatantly lied to me about this and the builder allows such shoddy construction to take place. What else has gone on that I don't know about?? Thanks!

tomh

05:48PM | 08/22/04
Member Since: 07/01/03
550 lifetime posts
This happens all the time for various reasons. Lumber often warps, even after it is placed in the wall. To ensure the stud is replaced before electrical, plumbing, HVAC and drywall make it more difficule, it is simply cut or knocked out of place. It is easy to replace. Sometimes it is removed because it interferes with an HVAC run or for other reasons. A replacement is again easy to install.

If you are concerned with the construction quality of a house under construction, you are talking with the wrong person (realtor). Hire a home inspector with experience as a general contractor. For a few hundred dollars he will perform inspections according to a schedule you agree to in advance, and will backup the city/county inspections. This is a common arrangement in new construction and can give you a great deal of peace of mind. The inspector will inform you of issues that you can then take to the general contractor for repair before they are covered by drywall and finish materials. A benefit to both you and your contractor.

Have patience. There will be mistakes, but if you retain an expert to help you identify and understand them, the final product will be just fine. By the time you get to the final checklist, it should be a simple walk-through with no surprises.

rnfreeze

07:53PM | 08/22/04
Member Since: 08/21/04
2 lifetime posts
The builder has already covered the area with drywall and began priming it for paint. Neither stud has been replaced and is easy to locate due to the hollowed sound and lack of primer (or whatever that may be). I was more concerned with the fact that my realtor told me it was something, "nerd stud", I have yet to verify even exists. This breach of trust would alienate the entire arrangement for me. Once again, the drywall has already been hung for some time. This is one of many issues that has come out of this entire process but one I believe will queer the deal entirely for me if I find my realtor blatantly covered something up. Please verify if a nerd stud exists and if so what it's purpose is. Thanks.

tomh

09:27PM | 08/22/04
Member Since: 07/01/03
550 lifetime posts
I thought I had been around the block a few times, but I have never heard of this term. I have heard of jack (trimmer) studs and king studs, and even built cripple walls and studs, but never have I heard of a nerd stud.

In MOST cases the realtor represents the sellers interest. That does not give them carte blance to misrepresent or bamboozle. My original recommendation still holds however. Even if you had a builder you trust, a second set of professional eyes would be beneficial. If you do not hire your own inspector, confront the builder and ask why the the studs are missing. Even if this is not a support wall (non-structural), the stud still must support the drywall. A missing stud leaves a 30.5 inch space that has no support. The city or county inspector might also be able to shed some light on requirements, and may order a repair if you call and express this concern to them.

I don't know what language your realtor speaks, but nerd studs don't sound like constructionese to me. I understand your concern. Sounds like double talk to me.
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