11:35AM | 06/10/14
My family purchased a home May 2013. We have had our sewer back up in the past year 4 separate times-October, January, March & May. In May, we had the plumber use a camera to scope it and found that 1) We have Orangeburg pipes & 2) A tree root had grown through it. The estimated replacement is $9000.
My neighbor has since shared the entire block has plumbing issues due to the Orangeburg. Recent repair estimates on this block range in $6000-$13000.
The previous owners were a family of 5 living in the home for 10 years. How likely is it that they never experienced plumbing issues? I feel as though this should have been disclosed to us. The disclosure we have states no plumbing issues/repairs were ever done.


10:42AM | 06/13/14
Member Since: 01/24/06
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Oraneburg piping is nothing more then coal tar impregnated wood fibre sewer pipe

I would find it highly unlikely that the family before did not have chronic sewer problems.

There are discourse laws in most civilized areas and not disclosing this in my opinion is fraud.

A lawyer who lived around the corner from me had root infiltration and I had to do a yearly cleaning,sometimes every two years he would wait.

He sold the home after he had me snake the lines and water jet the outside leaders. Being a lawyer of he of course did not disclose the problems with the main sewer.

If you have a decent mater plumber then he /she can write a report as an expert witness and go after the low lives that sold you this home

Once the Orange pie os removed with DOCUMENTED pictures and showing the areas where roots entered you now have proven evidence

A decent master plumber would convince a judge or jury this is a no brainier and fraud was committed ALSO having a judge order a subpoena to have the ex owners turn over all cancelled checks relating to this repairs

I would love to get on a case like this as it could be a real money make for all concerned except for the past owners they should lose big time
4 500 repairs


02:51PM | 06/13/14
I have since learned they definitely had their main sewer line cleaned out at least one time...I have not found any other proof yet but plan to meet with an attorney to see what action, if any, can be taken.


01:10PM | 06/15/14
Member Since: 01/24/06
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If your lawyer hires a decent expert witness that has the right credentials such as a local master plumber this should be an easy case to prove

When buying a home defects should be noted before closing in most civilized areas so the prospective buyer can make the choose of buying knowing there is a problem or get a price to replace the piping and take it off the selling price

I have often found that once a seller is proven dishonorable then one has to wonder if they are also hiding the fact there maybe asbestos, radon, plumbing and electrical repairs made by non licensed individuals.

If any plumbing alterations were made there should have been documentation such as permits being pulled and the jobs inspected

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10:18AM | 05/09/15
Easy case to prove? I don't think so. They bought a house that apparently has a very old sewer system. They didn't have any problems until 5 months after purchase. Just because it's old, orangeburg, and five months later they have a problem, does not a strong case make. Or even a case, IMO. They would have to prove that the seller *knew* there was a problem related to the orangeburg pipe. The fact that he found they had their sewer line cleaned out at least one time, doesn't add much either. If by found out he means he's located the plumber who did it, then he may have something, depending on if the plumber can be located, remembers what he told them, etc. If by found out he means the guy across the street told him, good luck with that. Also, not in evidence is what the sales contract stipulates with regard to warranties or lack there of, "As is", etc. All the talk of lawyers, is IMO, nuts. The cost of pursuing it on the *chance* that you might prevail, would exceed the cost of the replacement. Small claims is an option, but good luck there, for the above reasons. When you buy an old house, you take some risks. That risk could have been reduced by having a sewer inspection performed.
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