06:30PM | 05/10/04
Member Since: 01/03/04
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I have Vinly floor in the kitchen and considering replacing that with laminate/pergo. Is this a good idea for the kitchen? Is yes, can I lay it over the vinyl floor or is it a good idea to take the existing floor out? Is it a do-it-your-self project?

PS: My house is 8 years old.




07:00PM | 05/10/04
Member Since: 07/01/03
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Laminate floating floors are ideal from the standpoint of appearance and ease of installation. Most of them can be damaged by water. One exception appears to be Manninton Icore. Rather than being constructed on a hardboard substrate, the ICORE is a constructed on plastic channels. This is strong and water resistant. Cost is similar to premium laminates. The lowest price on this stuff is $6.25/square foot, but is the only one that the manufacturer calls waterproof.

Don't expect to find the top quality laminates at any warehouse store. Go online to find the best prices. or About 40% lower than the lowest local price. Be sure to compare taxes and shipping costs.


08:38AM | 05/11/04
Member Since: 08/27/03
254 lifetime posts
Tom makes some good points. Icore would be the wisest choice, but a good quality lam is completely acceptable as long as you clean up the big spills.

I would however encourage you to spend a tad bit more to buy locally. Ifloor and others do have lower overhead, but they cannot usually compete with someone you can talk to face to face, and they do not employ ANYONE from your state, unless this company happens to be local.

Just my 2 cents.


09:35AM | 05/11/04
Member Since: 07/01/03
549 lifetime posts
I recently purchased my first floor online after working with a number of local dealers. I really do belive in supporting local business, so this presents a bit of a dilema. In this case, I do my own install and require no service, just a sale. The material is a commodity, which means once I have picked a brand and quality, my decision is based on price. For the same materials, I got store prices at $5.39 and $4.89/square foot plus 7.5% tax, compared to online prices of $3.73 no tax, and padding and accessories were less as well. The store had to order from their warehouse, and delivery was about 2-days sooner than shipping from online source. I had to pick the material up at the store, and the online merchant shipped to my driveway.

No contest. But I will continue to shop locally for most items and materials, and my decision is not always based on price. I will gladly pay more for service when it is needed, but not for ringing a cash register. Oh gee, my paint store just called with the new AirTech airless sprayer I didn't buy online!


11:24AM | 05/11/04
Member Since: 08/27/03
254 lifetime posts
More great points Tom.

I just have this bug in me, that irks me a bit every now and then.

When you go to as many sites consistantly as I do, you start seeing things.

Like people complaining about jobs going overseas, but they buy thousands from out of state.

Or they complain of no service at **********, but buy anyway, and Ace hardware goes out of business or moves.

Money drives all of us, and I am really trying to make sure that people are not accidently ignorant to the fact that their money counts even more than their vote just about.

I too may just look online sometimes, but I will be carefull to make sure I give the localls a shot at the deal. But a couple hundred bucks or even more is hard to resist, but it will bite us in the butt eventually, especially in the massive laminate world where millions are being spent online, let alone all the other products.

next thing you know...johnny gets downsized at *****, or Ace, or some mom and pop floor store, or whatever.

It irks me a bit, but hey, not only is that America, but I just may have to make that decision myself someday....


04:16PM | 05/11/04
Member Since: 07/01/03
549 lifetime posts
Floorcraft, your points are well taken. The flooring stores are willing to measure a job and provide customer assistance in selecting a product and finding the best way to get it installed.

I am in the unique position of being experienced in most flooring applications and own a variety of professional tools, from compressors and nail guns, floor runner (spot nails), table saw, power miter and other useful items. MOST people would be well served to pay the small extra amount to have the job properly estimated, and to get professional guideance in the best materials for the application, and perhaps installation assistance. Sometimes I forget my situation is not the same as the average consumer. The original poster inquired about a product suitable for potential wet applications. A professionally run floor center would guide them to the correct solution and back up the sale. Posters on this site are fortunate to have your expertise available to them. Thanks.
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