01:43PM | 12/26/06
Member Since: 07/07/06
75 lifetime posts
I need help installing a new toilet. This is a replacement for an old toilet. I have nevet done this. My plumber is busy and I want this done for a party this weekend.

My issue when I try to place the on the existing floor flange I get confused,

On the flange the wide opening open for the bolt on the right hand side is near the front. On the left hand side the wide area of the flange opening in toward the back. If I place both bolts on the narrow end of the flange opening they are out line by an inch.

If I place the bolts in the center of the opening they seem to move.

I am trying to get the toilet on the bolts ( without the wax ring for now) but I keep having trouble getting both bolt in the toilet holes

What am I missing ?

What is ther trick



03:02PM | 12/26/06
Member Since: 01/24/06
1558 lifetime posts
Ah the old moving bolt routine

The bolts should be replaced along with the wax seal and the area where the new bowl is going to be set clean as possible.

Then one measures from the back wall either 10" or 12" or 14" to the center of the floor flange and sets the bolts accordingly.

There are several ways to stop the bolts from moving

1- set the wax gasket and use it to more of less hold the bolts in place as the bowl is lowered

2- Solder the bolt to the flange if your on the money and are skilled enough not to melt the existing lead pipe if that is the kind of piping you have

There are other ways to do it but some can be difficult to explain on here.

I am sure there has to be another licensed plumber some where near you that is more then capable of installing a toilet.

If incorrectly installed the possibility of destroying the floor flange from the piping is very possible.

This is one of those things that should be seen rather then explained on here as there is a water connection involved and possibly a tank unless your using a flushometer.


05:07AM | 12/27/06
Member Since: 03/08/06
192 lifetime posts
I have heard of people taping straws onto the bots to give them something to guide the toilet onto.


05:57AM | 12/27/06
Member Since: 07/07/06
75 lifetime posts
Thanks for the help. I measured 12 inches and placed the bolts with a plastic washer that held the bolts in place. The toilets is in place firmly mounted to thh floor and level.

I do not see a future for me as a plumber.


12:13PM | 12/27/06
Member Since: 01/24/06
1558 lifetime posts
Are you kidding?

When I was 17 years old working in a boiler room in the Navy, I said NO WAY could I see myself as a heating guy or a plumber and after working as a plumber since July 1965 I think I had better start looking for a profession I like.

Plumbing is way to complicated, with all the codes, AGA, NFPA 54 and 13, ( there are a lot more but I only use these ) then there is OSHA, NIOSH, ASME sections IV (the rest bore me), ASSE, NBBI, City,State Federal, AWWA, AWS, Barrier free design ADA, and then the mathematics and physical requirements and all kinds of materials and waste systems like acid and storm drainage and sanitary and years and years of continuous schooling one has to be outa their minds to want to be a plumber.

I think we should find an easier way to make a living huh?

Just imagine if one lives to be 1,000 years old they still will never know everything about plumbing.. There has to be an easier way.

Have a great holiday Sylvan,LMP,LMFSPC


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