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tadlem43

02:52PM | 01/21/07
Member Since: 01/07/07
3 lifetime posts
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i have a hampton bay fan in my living room and need to replace the light kit. sounds simple? not so fast! i have checked all of the light switches, all of the switches in the breaker box and not ONE will turn the power off! i have no outside throw switch (older home) and certainly can't afford one right now. does anyone have any suggestions?? the old light kit had 4 spot lights on it and when i removed it i now have all of the capped wires exposed (yes, they are all capped) but i can't leave it like this. i can't afford an electrician. can someone suggest how i know which of these wires to safely pull to put on a new kit? or how to just take the whole thing down and start over? if i have to resort to this, i will be fishing wire to a switch and a box, believe me!!! thanks for any help!

Billhart

04:30PM | 01/21/07
Member Since: 04/25/05
1915 lifetime posts
One posibility is that you have a sub-panel with more breakers on it.

Where you turning all of the breakers off at one time? Or just one at a time.

There is a posibility that it is being feed by more than one circuit. That is DANGEROUS not only to work on it, but there the wiring could be overloaded and the breaker not trip.

How are the breakers aranged and labeled. Some older panels have a "split bus" and no single main breaker.

They have several big (2 pole 240 breakers) for stove, AC, WH, sub-panel, as needed. And one of the supplies the sub-bus which has the single pole breakers for 120 circuits.

Other panels without a main breaker are a sub-panel with a main disconnect at the meter or near where the power enters the house.

Is this a single family detached house are any kind of condo, 2-3 family or duplex?

tadlem43

08:22PM | 01/21/07
Member Since: 01/07/07
3 lifetime posts
ok..let's see if i can answer all of your questions lol

it is an older home..ok..old. i have single breakers and the 220's are as you discribed, 2 breakers joined together. i recently had one converted to a 110 and they removed a wire from the outlet and disconnected one of the joint breakers making it a single. when i tried to turn off the breakers i did it one at time. i don't think it is connected to a breaker at all, but i'm not totally sure. i think it is a direct hot wire. don't worry. i have decided not to do this myself, but i want to know what is going on if i have someone else do it! i haven't had any problems with the fan or the light kit until it simply wore out. nothing like it being hot around it or anything. i would like to eventually have the house rewired and place a single throw breaker outside (they say the lever type is the best??) but can't afford it right now. for the time, i need light in my living room and table lamps just aren't cutting it. thanks so much for your reply! any information is greatly appreciated! tad

tadlem43

08:24PM | 01/21/07
Member Since: 01/07/07
3 lifetime posts
sorry.. forgot to mention that it is a single family home. i can't find any type of cut off near the meter or the house at all! hence, my questions! thanks again!

househelper

04:04AM | 01/22/07
Member Since: 03/31/05
265 lifetime posts
Does your panel have a main breaker that can be shutoff? If so, does the fan/light go off then? If not, try turning all the breakers off at the same time. Also, as Bill suggested, look for another panel somewhere in the house (closet, garage, basement, kitchen, crawlspace).

Billhart

04:54AM | 01/22/07
Member Since: 04/25/05
1915 lifetime posts
Let us know what it turns out to be.

That way we have any idea for someone to check on when if they have a similar problem.

That is the way that I found out GFCI have been put in closets to control garage receptacels.

The reason that I ask about it being a condo or multi-family of some kind was for two reasons. One is that it could have gotten wired off anohter unit. The other is that there might be a main panel and/or disconnect in a common area (or outside) by the meter bank.
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