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Mechell66

11:02AM | 01/02/03
Member Since: 01/01/03
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I currently have a drop in range, but have my eye on a new free standing. Will there be massive reconstructive surgery to make this happen, or is it as simple as cutting out the upper and lower parts of the cabinet?

rpxlpx

03:48AM | 01/03/03
Member Since: 03/13/00
1674 lifetime posts
If this is an electric range, you might want to check how the drop-in wiring is connected to see if a new outlet is needed.

Mechell66

01:23PM | 01/03/03
Member Since: 01/01/03
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Thanks....and I found out that drop ins are wired direct.....this is alot more trouble than I thought it would be.

DanO

04:39PM | 01/03/03
Member Since: 11/11/02
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Installing a range receptacle onto the existing power supply line would usually be very minor compared to the cabinetry work that will be required.


Dan O.
www.Appliance411.com
The Appliance Information Site

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suzanne-e

01:03PM | 01/29/03
Member Since: 01/28/03
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hey, let's expand on this a little bit as lo and behold, i'm considering the same move.

is the carpentry work consisting of basically removing the back bit of the counter and the lower baseboard? or will there need to be additional room added by moving the surrounding cabinets out?

i'm planning to re-laminate the counter anyhow.

Mechell66

02:27PM | 01/30/03
Member Since: 01/01/03
4 lifetime posts
Well as far as I have gotten on this research is that after cutting out the excess cabinet....you have to make sure that you have enough support on each side. I also found the required clearance specs in the paperwork that comes in the oven....the one that I am looking at is at ***** ...and like I said the paperwork was right there inside the oven.....now all I need is the time off work to get all this accomplished.....hope this will help you out.

DanO

02:45PM | 01/30/03
Member Since: 11/11/02
2267 lifetime posts
** is the carpentry work consisting of basically removing the back bit of the counter and the lower baseboard? **

Yes, besides making sure the space is wide enough to accommodate the free-standing range and installing a wall plug for the power supply.

** or will there need to be additional room added by moving the surrounding cabinets out? **

Not usually. A stove can stick out anyway.

** you have to make sure that you have enough support on each side. **

Support for what? A free-standing range won't need any but if you have to cut the space for the range wider, your cupboards might need it.

Dan O.
www.Appliance411.com
The Appliance Information Site

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[This message has been edited by DanO (edited January 30, 2003).]

Melanie

03:02PM | 02/01/03
Member Since: 01/16/03
16 lifetime posts
Why are you all getting rid of the drop-ins?
I think they look more fitted and cleaner and that the counter can fit under a lip or at least be a closer fit. HELP! I think this is a good idea for my new house, but you guys are making me rethink, why? lenmelcat@msn.com, Melanie

DanO

03:12PM | 02/01/03
Member Since: 11/11/02
2267 lifetime posts
** I think this is a good idea for my new house **

From 'The Purchase' section of my site linked below.

quote:
When deciding between a built-in model or standard, you should also take into consideration that sometime in the future the appliance may need to be replaced. Built-in products are not standardized in size (except dishwashers) and you may have a difficult time finding a replacement that will fit, down the road.
Should such an appliance fail in the future, you may be forced to either have expensive service performed on it or remodel your kitchen (again, possibly) to install a replacement.

JMO

Dan O.
www.Appliance411.com
The Appliance Information Site

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suzanne-e

07:52PM | 02/01/03
Member Since: 01/28/03
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as a person who is the owner of a 22 year old, ugly as sin, drop in range who is now facing the predicament of replacing it to update the look of the kitchen, let me urge people who have a choice not to install one of them....unless, of course, you have plenty of money and don't mind the additional cost as they are much more expensive than free-standing ranges.

they don't make that many drop-ins anymore....if they made that many to begin with, so you have to worry about the limited choice you have. also, they seem much more difficult to take out if you are wanting to do something like re-laminate the countertop. which is another question i would like answered....

ACD

12:05PM | 02/07/03
Member Since: 10/15/02
359 lifetime posts
I beg to differ on the drop in cooktops. Every 4 burner unit I have seen is a standard 30" unit, the dimensions were all the same. There are some larger units that fit in a 36" opening, and they seem to come in different depths, but all the 30" ones I looked at, whether gas or electric all had the same rough opening. I bought a JennAir unit since those have been around the longest and seem to have a good repitation, and they are the only gas units that have exchangeable modules that are easy to get. I think GE has some as well, but arent locally available.

DanO

08:51AM | 02/08/03
Member Since: 11/11/02
2267 lifetime posts
** I beg to differ on the drop in cooktops. **

The OP was asking about drop-in ranges not cooktops. Here are some counter cutout dimension examples for 30" drop-in range models:

Kenmore
Depth, Opening 21-5/8 in.
Height, Opening 29 in.
Width, Opening 29 in.

GE Profile
Height, Opening 27-1/4 in.
Width, Opening 30 in.

Whirlpool
Height, Floor to Countertop 30-3/4 in.
Width, Opening 29-3/8 in.

Frigidaire
Depth 26-1/4 in.
Height to Cooktop 29-7/16 in.
Width 30 in.

Maytag
Depth, Opening 23-1/4 in.
Height, Floor to Countertop 27-1/2 in.
Height, Opening 27-1/2 in.
Width, Opening 30 in.

But event for 30" electric cooktops the cutouts are different:

KitchenAid
Depth, Opening 18-5/8 in.
Width, Opening 28-7/8 in.

KitchenAid
Depth, Opening 20-1/2 in.
Width, Opening 29-1/2 in.

GE
Depth, Opening 19-5/8 in.
Width, Opening 28-1/2 in.

Jenn-Air
Depth, Opening 21-1/8 in.
Width, Opening 28-7/8 in.

Amana
Depth, Opening 20-5/8 in.
Width, Opening 28-7/8 in.

Frigidaire

Depth, Opening 20-1/4 in.
Width, Opening 29-5/8 in.

You'll note that even 2 different models both by KitchenAid even require different size cutouts!

JFYI

Dan O.

[This message has been edited by DanO (edited February 08, 2003).]

Mechell66

03:31AM | 02/09/03
Member Since: 01/01/03
4 lifetime posts
DanO you are just a plethora of knowledge...I bet your wife loves having you around!!

DanO

08:25AM | 02/09/03
Member Since: 11/11/02
2267 lifetime posts
** I bet your wife loves having you around! **

Yeah right. Just what she needs, a know it all?

Dan O.


[This message has been edited by DanO (edited February 10, 2003).]

ACD

12:04PM | 02/11/03
Member Since: 10/15/02
359 lifetime posts
DOH! My bad. Didnt know thay made drop in ranges, just cooktops and slide ins.

BV011255

08:34AM | 04/14/16
Critical dimension can be vertical. Is that not height?


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